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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2013, 02:55:16 PM »
She must be super human the way she was running around after having been cut the fuck wide open. Look I enjoyed it but.. C'mon what a let down with the unveiling of the Engineers. They looked ridiculous.

But that aside, I liked the explanation of how the Xenomorph came to be - a weapon of war, of mass extermination. I thought that was interesting.

Still, it was no Alien sequel - I really hope that the next film ties in more with the Alien universe but as we already know they're heading to the Engineers home planet, there probably won't be any Xenomorph's.

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2013, 07:53:31 AM »
yeah Id be fucked doing all that physical shit she does sans c section (and as we all know Im in superb physical condition  :fuckyeah:) I expected her to die...I thought the space jockeys were brilliant...the film certainly divides opinion
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2013, 04:57:20 PM »
Still, it was no Alien sequel ...

I'm no expert on this and didn't watch this one... but: wasn't it supposed to be a "prequel"?

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2013, 08:29:24 AM »
yeah Id be fucked doing all that physical shit she does sans c section (and as we all know Im in superb physical condition  :fuckyeah:) I expected her to die...I thought the space jockeys were brilliant...the film certainly divides opinion

Oh you liked the Engineers? Hmm.. Guess I just had different expectations. Do you reckon they used Aliens to exterminate planets or simply "refresh" that planet so they could start again? Creating life or whatever they do.

I'm no expert on this and didn't watch this one... but: wasn't it supposed to be a "prequel"?

Ya it's like a prequel/a story within the Alien universe not entirely centered around the Aliens.

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2013, 09:17:04 AM »
its all conjecture but i took their creation of the xenomorph or whatever was for the purpose of wiping the slate clean.

ripley was of course an awesome character but do all the heroes in these films need to be women?
watching this prompted me to buy alien 3 and 4-havent watched 4 yet but 3 is pretty lousy...not avp lousy but yeah-i saw it way back then,never seen 4...
 
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2013, 12:13:36 PM »
3 is the shittest in the series not considering AVP or AVP2 in my opinion. I thought Resurrection grounded the series more to its roots but was still no Aliens.

How did you like it?

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2013, 03:13:07 PM »
3 sucked a lot of cock but imo 4/resurrection just took the piss.

Its nearly a comedy...just felt like the least "alien" film of all to me, great visuals etc and the smugglers were cool but felt nothing like any of the others and for me its down there with the avp films.

Besides the inflammatory/pointless slaying of hicks and newt at the start of 3 and an egg on the ship being totally inexplicable it at least had a few moments of suspense...i actually think resurrection is the worst ofall.
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2013, 07:34:08 AM »
Definitely produces polarizing views.

At least we agree only the first two films were legendary :thumbsup:

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2013, 03:37:33 AM »
i thought prometheus was a great film. lots of hidden messages and meanings.
but the script could have been alot better..

just a couple of my own thought on film.

"I love those who do not first seek a reason beyond the stars for going down and being sacrifices, but sacrifice themselves to the earth, that the earth may become the Overman's."  - Thus Spoke Zarathustra


Now, the biggest two clues come from the beginning of the film and what the lead characters find in the temple on LV-223. Now, Ridley Scott is on record as saying that the engineers are ‘dark angels’¹. And you may ask - which engineers? Indeed, the two clues come from the engineer we see at the beginning of the film and the engineer that we see on LV-223.

GOOD



BAD


Keep those two images in your mind.



So what happened around 2,000 years ago is that these dark angels were busy fashioning a final solution; the heralding of the anti-Christ starting with this black goo mutagen. Now a big clue comes when Holloway finds an altar and a mural. Depicted on the mural is a cruciform xenomorph on a pentagram and on top of the altar sits an emerald stone.




What is this emerald stone? in the trailers it was a saucer or a cup, a 'grail' if you will, it was replaced with a green stone in the final film. Why? In Parzival, which was another telling of the Grail legend, in the Great War between the fallen angels and God and his angels, Lucifer had a green emerald stone in his heavenly crown, but during the cosmic battle in which Lucifer was ejected from heaven, it fell from his crown to earth. Is it a coincidence that we have a green stone on top of an altar and a mural that looks blatantly like a pentagram? Lindelof is on record as saying that there are no accidents in Prometheus and that every choice Ridley made had a very specific and deliberate purpose

So what were they planning to do with this mutagenic compound? To corrupt man in order to counter the self-sacrificial emissary, who through an act of self-sacrifice would replenish the bloodline of the corrupt race of men using the same substance. Clearly, we can see that the results of the black goo differ only in how it is applied. When applied through an act of self-sacrifice and water baptism, we have the building blocks of life.

When applied via sex and by any other means other than self-sacrifice, aka Sin, we get xenomorphic beasts, serpents and death. Pretty big contrast huh? In their hubris these dark angels destroy themselves either before the sacrificial emissary set to plan a sacrificial act of drinking from the cup of life to clean and restore sinful man’s bloodline or after the fact. Ergo, the first of these emissaries could just as easily be the engineer at the beginning of the film and his sacramental self-sacrifice and disintegration is but one of many ‘crucifixions’ to restore paradise. Indeed, the Alien: Engineers script describes him as standing cruciform

his is Ridley’s science fiction re-tell of Milton’s Paradise Lost and is throwing in the recurring symbols and motifs of Sumerian and Greek myth also. The War on Heaven is the back-story between rebel engineers and angelic engineers, where the rebel engineers use the life giving substance not through self-sacrifice but through sin and death and through an equally inverse act of sacrifice also use themselves as hosts to beget monsters. The sacrificial figure that redeemed the bloodline 2,000 years prior did not completely restore the bloodline however and much of the Dark Angels’ bloodline still persisted through the generations regressively due to the miscegenation between mortal women and fallen angels that spawned the Nephilim, the Giants (more on this in a minute).  These dark angels, and their hybrid offspring in the Book of Enoch, are brutes who only use humans toward their own selfish ends to usurp the Lord’s favored creation; this is echoed by Weyland’s deliberate handpicking of a sub-par crew to further his own selfish quest for self-preservation and power, i.e., they both sacrifice others for their own self-preservation, an inverse of sacrifice. Contrast this with the sacrificial engineer at the beginning of the film; he sacrifices himself with the life substance for the preservation and renewal of life beyond his self. He is a Christ figure. I think Ridley has already alluded to what occurred 2,000 years ago in the very beginning of the film,

Now, the fact that the saucer or ‘grail’ etched with the Tree of Life on the altar was replaced with an emerald stone seems to further validate that these engineers on LV-223 were luciferian dark angels. Also contrast the saucer ship at the beginning of the film with the Juggernauts on LV-223...Yeah it’s that saucer motif again.


What is more is that Ridley stated that there were multiple ‘emissaries’ just like in reality from Horus, Osiris, Prometheus, Zarasthustra, geshtu-e, Mithra, etc. The fact that the sacrificial Christ-like engineer at the beginning resembles more the sacrifices of Osiris and Geshtu-e is rather telling. Thus, Shaw’s faith and of Jesus is a degraded memory passed down through one culture as are all the other myths and religions; they’re fabrications that embody the true events that took place at the beginning of the film and throughout further ages. Remember what Shaw’s father says in the dream, “They don’t want my help. Their God is different than mine.”

Now, if you look at the figure in the pictograms, he is pointing to six stars...Why six? Well if you read Genesis 1 through 6, you will find your answers. Genesis three speaks of the Serpent...it looks like Shaw and the crew landed in the star system correlating with Genesis 3 huh? And remember what the planetoid is called? LV-223, ala, Leviticus 22:3 –

Say to them, “If any one of all your offspring throughout your generations approaches the holy things that the people of Israel dedicate to the LORD, while he has an uncleanness, that person shall be cut off from my presence: I am the LORD.”


Now, if the dear reader can recall, there was something etched on the sacrificial engineer’s saucer lid...What was it again? Yep, a tree, and going by what results from this engineer’s self-sacrifice, the tree can only symbolize the Tree of Life.


When they ate of the Tree of Knowledge they did so because they were tempted by the devil; the serpent. Eve was deceived into thinking she was doing some wonderful thing. Very likely, they had not yet gotten to the Tree of Life because they had not been in the garden very long. For four main rivers to flow out of it the place must have been huge. (Genesis 2:10-14) So, what that sacrificial Christ-like engineer is doing at the beginning of the film is either replenishing man’s bloodline, indeed, sacrificing himself to cleanse man’s genetic sins or is fashioning the first humans, i.e. evolving ape-like ancestors into graceful denizens of Paradise, and for a time, it was good. This is essentially Ridley’s or maybe Damon’s interpretation of Genesis, the Fall, the War on Heaven and the Passion and it is pretty darn clever if you ask me.

What's interesting is that Damon stated that he and Ridley watched the first three Alien films, and given Ripley's self-sacrifice on Fury 161 into a burning pit of lava to rid the Beast that is the alien Queen (or bitch rather), I can't help but think that this corresponds with the fourth and final fall of the Beast and it brings together the mythos of the series in a rather beautiful fashion.

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OFF TO PARADISE WE GO !! ..   :rockon:

(Hopefully We See More Of The Deacon Too)
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2013, 12:45:20 AM »
Noomi Rapace confirms a “Prometheus 2″ script is being written





Damon Lindelof might not be working on “Prometheus 2,” but someone is. Leading lady Noomi Rapace confirmed that a screenplay is indeed being written for the upcoming Ridley Scott film.

“They’re working on the script,” she told The Playlist, not confirming who “they” is. “I met Ridley in London a couple of weeks ago. I would love to work with him again and I know that he would like to do another one. It’s just like we need to find the right story. I hope we will.”

Many fans might feel otherwise, as “Prometheus” was deemed to have been something of a letdown story-wise. But the movie did leave off with a big cliffhanger that implied that there is more to the story of Rapace’s Elizabeth Shaw and Michael Fassbender’s David.

Rapace addressed what the sequel could be about during her interview, saying that there are a lot of “conversations” raised by “Prometheus” that she’d like to continue. “People, most people I’ve talked to who see the movie, see things that are quite different. Some people who see the movie many times and discover new things,” she said. “There are all these religious aspects and there are very interesting conversations. And for me, if we do a second one, there are a lot of things to explore in there and to continue. I would love to do it.”

There is no projected release date for “Prometheus 2″ — or “Prometheus-er,” as Lindelof jokingly called it — as it seems like Scott is making sure he has a story worth telling before officially signing on to make the movie.

Link - http://www.ifc.com/fix/2013/02/noomi-rapace-prometheus-2-script
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Re: Prometheus
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« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2013, 07:24:20 AM »
i thought prometheus was a great film. lots of hidden messages and meanings.
but the script could have been alot better..

just a couple of my own thought on film.

"I love those who do not first seek a reason beyond the stars for going down and being sacrifices, but sacrifice themselves to the earth, that the earth may become the Overman's."  - Thus Spoke Zarathustra


Now, the biggest two clues come from the beginning of the film and what the lead characters find in the temple on LV-223. Now, Ridley Scott is on record as saying that the engineers are ‘dark angels’¹. And you may ask - which engineers? Indeed, the two clues come from the engineer we see at the beginning of the film and the engineer that we see on LV-223.

GOOD



BAD


Keep those two images in your mind.



So what happened around 2,000 years ago is that these dark angels were busy fashioning a final solution; the heralding of the anti-Christ starting with this black goo mutagen. Now a big clue comes when Holloway finds an altar and a mural. Depicted on the mural is a cruciform xenomorph on a pentagram and on top of the altar sits an emerald stone.




What is this emerald stone? in the trailers it was a saucer or a cup, a 'grail' if you will, it was replaced with a green stone in the final film. Why? In Parzival, which was another telling of the Grail legend, in the Great War between the fallen angels and God and his angels, Lucifer had a green emerald stone in his heavenly crown, but during the cosmic battle in which Lucifer was ejected from heaven, it fell from his crown to earth. Is it a coincidence that we have a green stone on top of an altar and a mural that looks blatantly like a pentagram? Lindelof is on record as saying that there are no accidents in Prometheus and that every choice Ridley made had a very specific and deliberate purpose

So what were they planning to do with this mutagenic compound? To corrupt man in order to counter the self-sacrificial emissary, who through an act of self-sacrifice would replenish the bloodline of the corrupt race of men using the same substance. Clearly, we can see that the results of the black goo differ only in how it is applied. When applied through an act of self-sacrifice and water baptism, we have the building blocks of life.

When applied via sex and by any other means other than self-sacrifice, aka Sin, we get xenomorphic beasts, serpents and death. Pretty big contrast huh? In their hubris these dark angels destroy themselves either before the sacrificial emissary set to plan a sacrificial act of drinking from the cup of life to clean and restore sinful man’s bloodline or after the fact. Ergo, the first of these emissaries could just as easily be the engineer at the beginning of the film and his sacramental self-sacrifice and disintegration is but one of many ‘crucifixions’ to restore paradise. Indeed, the Alien: Engineers script describes him as standing cruciform

his is Ridley’s science fiction re-tell of Milton’s Paradise Lost and is throwing in the recurring symbols and motifs of Sumerian and Greek myth also. The War on Heaven is the back-story between rebel engineers and angelic engineers, where the rebel engineers use the life giving substance not through self-sacrifice but through sin and death and through an equally inverse act of sacrifice also use themselves as hosts to beget monsters. The sacrificial figure that redeemed the bloodline 2,000 years prior did not completely restore the bloodline however and much of the Dark Angels’ bloodline still persisted through the generations regressively due to the miscegenation between mortal women and fallen angels that spawned the Nephilim, the Giants (more on this in a minute).  These dark angels, and their hybrid offspring in the Book of Enoch, are brutes who only use humans toward their own selfish ends to usurp the Lord’s favored creation; this is echoed by Weyland’s deliberate handpicking of a sub-par crew to further his own selfish quest for self-preservation and power, i.e., they both sacrifice others for their own self-preservation, an inverse of sacrifice. Contrast this with the sacrificial engineer at the beginning of the film; he sacrifices himself with the life substance for the preservation and renewal of life beyond his self. He is a Christ figure. I think Ridley has already alluded to what occurred 2,000 years ago in the very beginning of the film,

Now, the fact that the saucer or ‘grail’ etched with the Tree of Life on the altar was replaced with an emerald stone seems to further validate that these engineers on LV-223 were luciferian dark angels. Also contrast the saucer ship at the beginning of the film with the Juggernauts on LV-223...Yeah it’s that saucer motif again.


What is more is that Ridley stated that there were multiple ‘emissaries’ just like in reality from Horus, Osiris, Prometheus, Zarasthustra, geshtu-e, Mithra, etc. The fact that the sacrificial Christ-like engineer at the beginning resembles more the sacrifices of Osiris and Geshtu-e is rather telling. Thus, Shaw’s faith and of Jesus is a degraded memory passed down through one culture as are all the other myths and religions; they’re fabrications that embody the true events that took place at the beginning of the film and throughout further ages. Remember what Shaw’s father says in the dream, “They don’t want my help. Their God is different than mine.”

Now, if you look at the figure in the pictograms, he is pointing to six stars...Why six? Well if you read Genesis 1 through 6, you will find your answers. Genesis three speaks of the Serpent...it looks like Shaw and the crew landed in the star system correlating with Genesis 3 huh? And remember what the planetoid is called? LV-223, ala, Leviticus 22:3 –

Say to them, “If any one of all your offspring throughout your generations approaches the holy things that the people of Israel dedicate to the LORD, while he has an uncleanness, that person shall be cut off from my presence: I am the LORD.”


Now, if the dear reader can recall, there was something etched on the sacrificial engineer’s saucer lid...What was it again? Yep, a tree, and going by what results from this engineer’s self-sacrifice, the tree can only symbolize the Tree of Life.


When they ate of the Tree of Knowledge they did so because they were tempted by the devil; the serpent. Eve was deceived into thinking she was doing some wonderful thing. Very likely, they had not yet gotten to the Tree of Life because they had not been in the garden very long. For four main rivers to flow out of it the place must have been huge. (Genesis 2:10-14) So, what that sacrificial Christ-like engineer is doing at the beginning of the film is either replenishing man’s bloodline, indeed, sacrificing himself to cleanse man’s genetic sins or is fashioning the first humans, i.e. evolving ape-like ancestors into graceful denizens of Paradise, and for a time, it was good. This is essentially Ridley’s or maybe Damon’s interpretation of Genesis, the Fall, the War on Heaven and the Passion and it is pretty darn clever if you ask me.

What's interesting is that Damon stated that he and Ridley watched the first three Alien films, and given Ripley's self-sacrifice on Fury 161 into a burning pit of lava to rid the Beast that is the alien Queen (or bitch rather), I can't help but think that this corresponds with the fourth and final fall of the Beast and it brings together the mythos of the series in a rather beautiful fashion.

(meshuggah )

OFF TO PARADISE WE GO !! ..   :rockon:

(Hopefully We See More Of The Deacon Too)
I was totally going to post that,but i was too busy smoking marlboros and drinking jack daniels :troll:
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #27 on: March 13, 2013, 02:29:55 PM »
I could barely bear watch it from beginning to end. Not my thing definitely.

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2013, 03:27:00 PM »
Here Are Some Unused Concept Art From Prometheus.

By Carlos Huante..


Space Jockey / Engineer .



Space Jockey / Engineer Two



Fifield / Babyhead



Holloway's Original Death Scene



Holloway's Alien Parasite Unused



Ultramorph Alien design



Unused Ultramorph Alien 2



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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2013, 03:29:51 PM »
Ridley Scott Looking For Paradise Locations??


Ridley Scott has traveled to the island of Gran Canaria (Spain) according to this source to film a movie without revealing too many details, and here they say that he traveled with his usual collaborator Arthur Max.

According to this article Scott said: "We have been seeing possible locations for a great movie, we found several that we liked a lot, and that means that I will return. Basically we seek natural landscapes, wild nature, but at this stage we will have to build many great things, that's what I do ".

Furthermore he added: "I don't want to talk about the film because it is confidential," he reiterated several times yesterday. "It takes place in natural settings, with important scenarios and funds with big mountains, big rocks, deserts, etc. Correspondingly the film Lawrence of Arabia that had many scenarios, impressive backgrounds, is the same style" said.

I wonder if this has anything to do with the sequel of Prometheus...becaus e I read a few days ago that Ridley will be responsible for directing a movie about Moses called "Exodus" and 12 short of science fiction for Machinima.
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