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Norway Attacks
« on: July 23, 2011, 06:25:16 PM »
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http://www.torontosun.com/2011/07/23/norway-suspect-attacked-multiculturalism

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OSLO - The Norwegian charged with killing at least 92 people in a gun and bomb massacre had belonged to an anti-immigration party and wrote blogs attacking multiculturalism and Islam.

Police said Anders Behring Breivik, detained by police after 85 people were gunned down at a youth camp and another 7 killed in a bomb attack on Friday, was unknown to them and his Internet activity traced so far included no calls to violence.

In comments from 2009-2010 to other people's articles on website Document.no, which calls itself critical of Islam, Breivik criticized European policies of trying to accommodate the cultures of different ethnic groups.

"When did multiculturalism cease to be an ideology designed to deconstruct European culture, traditions, identity and nation-states?" said one his entries, posted on Feb. 2, 2010.

Another entry dated February 16 last year said: "According to two studies, 13% of young British Muslims aged between 15 and 25 support al Qaeda ideology."

Breivik wrote he was a backer of the "Vienna School of Thought," which was against multiculturalism and the spread of Islam.

He also wrote he admired Geert Wilders, the populist anti-Islam Dutch politician, for following that school.

Wilders said in a statement on Saturday: "I despise everything he stands for and everything he did."

NOT KNOWN TO POLICE

Nina Hjerpset-Ostlie, a contributing journalist to the website, said she had met Breivik at a meeting in late 2009. He seemed keen to develop the website as a way to counter what he saw as prevailing trends of multiculturalism.

"The only thing we noticed about him is that he seemed like anyone else and that he had some very high-flying, unrealistic, ideas about marketing of our website," she told Reuters.

She said Breivik was active on the website in late 2009, but became less so during of 2010.

Police searched an apartment in an Oslo suburb on Friday, which neighbors said belonged to Breivik's mother.

"It is the mother who lives there. She is a very polite lady, pleasant and very friendly," said Hemet Noaman, 27, an accounting consultant who lives in the same building in an expensive part of town.

"He often came to visit his mother but did not live here."

Oslo Deputy Police Chief Roger Andresen would not speculate on the motives for what was believed to be the deadliest attack by a lone gunman anywhere in modern times.

"He has never been under surveillance and he has never been arrested," Oslo deputy police chief Roger Andresen told a news conference.

POPULIST PARTY MEMBER

Breivik, who attended a middle class high school called Handelsgym in central Oslo, had also been a member of the Progress Party, the second-largest in parliament, the party's head of communications Fredrik Farber said.

He was a member from 2004 to 2006 and in its youth party from 1997-2006/2007.

The Progress Party wants far tighter restrictions on immigration, whereas the center-left government backs multiculturalism. The party leads some public opinion polls.

A politician who met Breivik in 2002-2003, when he was apparently interested in local Oslo politics, said he did not attract attention.

"I got the impression that he was a modest person ... he was well dressed, it seemed like he was well educated," Joeran Kallmyr, 33, an Oslo municipality politician representing the Progressive Party, told Reuters.

"I don't remember anything special about him ... I don't remember if he had any particular political opinions, he wasn't really a person who took part of political debate."

Progress leader Siv Jensen stressed he had left the party.

"It makes me very sad that he was a member at an earlier point. He was never very active and we have a hard time finding anyone who knows much about him," she told Reuters.

Farber said: "He was a member and had some participation in the local chapter in Oslo but stopped paying his membership dues and ceased being a member in 2006 or 2007."

Breivik was also a freemason, said a spokesman for the organization. Freemasons meet in secretive fraternal groups in many parts of the world.

 


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Re: Norway Attacks
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2011, 06:54:34 PM »
It is truly awful. Sadly though the media are doing what they always do and are giving it blanket coverage (well, maybe not now Amy Winehouse has carped it) which leads to more madmen getting the same idea. Lets hope this isn't repeated.
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Re: Norway Attacks
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2011, 07:02:32 PM »
The gunman had 1.5 hours alone on the island with the 600 kids (age 13-18) and managed to kill about 90 of them. The rest managed to hide or swam away. He had multiple guns. Wearing police clothes he fooled the kids into believing he was there to help them and killed them when they approached him. The island is small and corpses were littered along the shores and in the water. Civilians from a nearby camp site came in small boats to help evacuate the kids and had to make terrible choices about whom to bring to safety. Numerous stories of heroism is coming, i.e. kids who swam to land dragging wounded friends, campers who had to lay down in the boat as they approached the shore to save kids while the gunman fired against the boat, heavily wounded kids who refused to be helped by other kids and urged them to save themselves instead.

Norway is in a terrible shock today. We are stunned. Norway is a small country, an open country, a country very vulnerable to such attacks because we have never experienced anything even close to it before. The kids on the island were participating in a political rally, an annual summit for politically interested youth. They were there to discuss our future, to socialise, to enjoy our freedom, our freedom of speech, our religious freedom, our tolerance. They were killed by an enemy from within. How can we protect ourselves from such maniacs in the future? How can we save our kids?

Norway lost it's innocence and is a country in mourning.

Personally I lost no loved ones, but I have been intensely saddened by the event. I have been numbed and shocked. It is hard to describe, this was not just a loss of a huge number of innocent lives, but a loss of a way of living, a loss of safety. I am just happy that the perpetrator was caught alive and that he was not part of any organization. Everybody condemns this atrocity, everybody. This was not a polarizing event, but a uniting event.

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Re: Norway Attacks
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2011, 07:07:09 PM »
As I said over on AFD, I find this whole thing incomprehensible. I can't begin to imagine it :(
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Re: Norway Attacks
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2011, 07:18:52 PM »
I hope the cunt gets tortured, for life and when I say torture, I mean. Food and water deprivation, sleep deprivation, water boarding, electrocution, physical beatings, locked in cells with huge, psycopathic sex fiends, hands and feet chopped off, that sort of thing.

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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2011, 07:27:56 PM »
I hope the cunt gets tortured, for life and when I say torture, I mean. Food and water deprivation, sleep deprivation, water boarding, electrocution, physical beatings, locked in cells with huge, psycopathic sex fiends, hands and feet chopped off, that sort of thing.

R.I.P kiddies.

I hope he gets to see that all his efforts to change the political direction of Norway, the sacrifices he made to achieve this, all his plans and endeavours, turn to dust as nothing comes out of it. Then I hope he realizes, after 10-15 frustrating years in prison, that not only did he achieve nothing else but make himself the most loathed person in Norway, but also that what he did was wrong. I hope he wakes up one day in his cell and fully realizes what despicable and senseless acts he did and suffer from all the guilt that can be piled on one person for the rest of his life. A life in sorrow and misery. he realization that not only has he wasted his life, but that of 90 others too. That is all I want for him. To see what everyone else sees. To feel a fraction of the collective sorrow that we feel.

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Re: Norway Attacks
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2011, 07:31:26 PM »
 :rolleyes:

If he is not clinically insane, then he's already fully aware that what he did was "wrong."
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« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2011, 10:16:30 PM »
It's pity that such things continue to happen in old civilized Europe. Unfortunately there always will be psycopaths.
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2011, 12:37:29 AM »
The gunman had 1.5 hours alone on the island with the 600 kids (age 13-18) and managed to kill about 90 of them. The rest managed to hide or swam away. He had multiple guns. Wearing police clothes he fooled the kids into believing he was there to help them and killed them when they approached him. The island is small and corpses were littered along the shores and in the water. Civilians from a nearby camp site came in small boats to help evacuate the kids and had to make terrible choices about whom to bring to safety. Numerous stories of heroism is coming, i.e. kids who swam to land dragging wounded friends, campers who had to lay down in the boat as they approached the shore to save kids while the gunman fired against the boat, heavily wounded kids who refused to be helped by other kids and urged them to save themselves instead.

Norway is in a terrible shock today. We are stunned. Norway is a small country, an open country, a country very vulnerable to such attacks because we have never experienced anything even close to it before. The kids on the island were participating in a political rally, an annual summit for politically interested youth. They were there to discuss our future, to socialise, to enjoy our freedom, our freedom of speech, our religious freedom, our tolerance. They were killed by an enemy from within. How can we protect ourselves from such maniacs in the future? How can we save our kids?

Norway lost it's innocence and is a country in mourning.

Personally I lost no loved ones, but I have been intensely saddened by the event. I have been numbed and shocked. It is hard to describe, this was not just a loss of a huge number of innocent lives, but a loss of a way of living, a loss of safety. I am just happy that the perpetrator was caught alive and that he was not part of any organization. Everybody condemns this atrocity, everybody. This was not a polarizing event, but a uniting event.


what an insane son of a bitch. I heard about it this morning but here (or at least, at the time they were giving the news) it wasnt known the reason of the attack and who did it (if there was some organization or religious movement backing it up), nor the the  horrible death of those children. I just cant believe how somebody could kill children in cold blood, just like that
I feel terribly sorry for the families of those children and even though they wont find consolation, I still think that it  is good that he didnt commit suicide. Cause when these things happen the terrorists usually kill themselves and the way I see it, their crime escapes unpunished. At least he'll be judged and punished and his life will become a living hell
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2011, 08:21:00 AM »
This should be the newsworthy event of yesterday, not some drug addict who done a little too much.


What happened is terrible.  I cannot begin to comprehend the fear and sheer terror that these people encountered during this.  Tragic, and completely heartbreaking for all involved. 

I am with Jplpool on this, punish the culprit, fuck his human rights, he deprived people of theirs...

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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2011, 01:13:41 PM »
Some quotes from the papers-

•teens dived into water,but he still shot them

• people played dead, but still shot them

•he picked of cute girls off first

•gunman cheered between shots

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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2011, 01:16:11 PM »

That cunt needs to die!!

Death is too humane.
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2011, 01:52:11 PM »
He has said that this was a 'cruel but necessary' act, and that he has planned it since 2009. What the hell is wrong in this guys head?
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2011, 03:31:44 PM »
but was it a one guy's plan or was there a terrorist organization backing him up?
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2011, 03:56:48 PM »
At the minute it is believed he was acting entirely alone.
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