Great boxing matches/boxing

[smoothie illusion]

No way Bradley won that fight. I don't know what the judges were smoking, but Pac had more hits, a higher efficiency and harder lands. 

[rds.06]

Manny should be knocking guys like him out long before going to the judges. He has lost his edge for me. That is 3 poors performances in a row. I can't see him carrying on much longer and Mayweather would beat him easily imo.

[smoothie illusion]

I agree, Mayweather would take him to the cleaners but I doubt we will ever see that fight

[abaraxas]

Are there actually any fights that arent a fucking travesty anymore?

 

[jplpool]

I posted on here fucking ages ago (not sure if it was in this thread) that Mayweather is/was different class to Manny.

Some people argued with me about it. I will reiterate. Mayweather > Manny.

[GnFnRosesfan#1]

Once the Klitchkos retire I think boxing will improve. I do think they are good fighters, but they have put a stand still on the division. I know they are brothers but they should have to fight each other. It's the only good heavyweight fight out there, but sadly it will never happen. So I'm sick of them, retire, get out of the way!!! Cause as every boxing fan knows, as the heavyweight division goes, so does boxing.

[jplpool]

Once the Klitchkos retire I think boxing will improve. I do think they are good fighters, but they have put a stand still on the division. I know they are brothers but they should have to fight each other. It's the only good heavyweight fight out there, but sadly it will never happen. So I'm sick of them, retire, get out of the way!!! Cause as every boxing fan knows, as the heavyweight division goes, so does boxing.

bollocks. Absolute bollocks.

Don't argue with me, I'll wipe the floor with you.

[GnFnRosesfan#1]

It's not "bullocks" it's fact. When boxing is at its most popular is when the heavyweights are awesome. I'm not saying the lighter divisions are not great also because they are, but the facts speak for themselves.

1. 1970's- ali, foreman, frazier, norton, shavers, holmes, and more
2. 1930's- louis, schmeling, braddock, bear, carnera, and more
3. 80's and 90's- tyson, holyfield, lewis, bowe, foreman

These were banner times for the sport, what do we have now? klitchko's? They are jokes. Talented yes, but they have helped kill boxing. Champions fight the best out there! Did tyson run from anyone? No! Did ali run from anyone? No! They heavyweight division died when lennox lewis retired and boxing wont return to top form untill we have an umdisputed world heavyweight champion again. And let's also face the facts that mayweather, manny, froch, or whomever else are not all time greats. Sugar ray robinson, sugar ray leonard, marvin hagler, tommy hearns would have mopped the floor with all of them. And they didnt run from each other either. The current crop of fighters are more concerned with paydays, not being champion. Can boxing return? Yes I think it can, but a new badass has to come along to do it, like tyson did in the 80's. Get people excited about boxing again. Or one governing body body with one champion in fewer weight classes. Other wise one of my fav sports is going to die a painful death.

[GnFnRosesfan#1]

Btw how's frank bruno doing  these days? He was supposed to be the great brittish fighter, got his ass kicked by the big boys. You guys have lennox lewis, I'll give ya one. But other than that, you guys got a long way to go. I was watchjng mike tyson, sugar ray leonard, evander holyfield, and others when you all were watching "football"

[jplpool]

Shut up ye tit.

What's Bruno got to do with anything?

I'm glad  you took 15 log-ins and almost exactly 24 hours to respond.

i'll do this in under a minute: Who exactly are the Klitchsko's avoiding??


BTW, you bellend, you are actually talking to somebody who was boxing in the 80's.

No great secret around here.

[rds.06]

The division doesn't have the fighters it used it.

The brothers have beat who have been put in front of them.

There are a few young fighters coming up but to think the reason the heavyweight division is the way it is today and not the way it was in the 80's is because of the Kilitchsko's is laughable.

Don't you think if there was another young Tyson knocking around that he would have beaten the Klitchsko's by now? The fact is there isnt one around to beat them hence why they have ruled the division for so long.

[GnFnRosesfan#1]

You have all missed my point. The real fight is brother against brother. But they won't do it, thats why they have killed the division. I dont care if he is your brother, if thats the best guy then thats who you fight! Great fighters fight other great fighters!!! They are paper champions as far as im concerned. And if you all can't see or admit that then you know nothing about boxing.

[rds.06]

You have all missed my point. The real fight is brother against brother. But they won't do it, thats why they have killed the division. I dont care if he is your brother, if thats the best guy then thats who you fight! Great fighters fight other great fighters!!! They are paper champions as far as im concerned. And if you all can't see or admit that then you know nothing about boxing.

How are they paper champions? There is plent more people in the division than just the brothers.

Do you think Mayweather is a paper champion because he won't/hasnt fought Pac Man?

Do you think Pac Man is a paper chamion because he won't/hasnt fought Mayweather?

Of course not, it's just ridiclous to think so.

Fact is they have agreed many many years ago to never fight each other, long before they we champions. Lets not forget Vitali fought Lewis for the title so he is more than willing to take on the best, just not his brother.

They have beaten everyone else put in front of them. If there was anyone else good enough in the division either of them would have been beaten by now, but they havent. Getting rid of the Kitchsko's does not impriove the quality of the other fighters in the division. It's been known for years they wont fight each other and it's up to everyone else to step up and beat one of them, if anything they are improving the division by setting a bench mark and giving guys that really don't deserve title fights a shot, and they have all fallen short.

[jplpool]

"Paper champions" LOL.

Go away.

If you are old enough to have been watching Sugar Ray, then your attempt to make "Chinese Democracy - the Movie" just highlights how much of a retard you must be......... I thought you were about 15 after reading that bollocks.

[GnFnRosesfan#1]

I agree that the division is weak, possably the weakest it's ever been. So I guess by default they do help improve the quality. I just thought some of you were boxing purest? I don't care who holds what belt their is only one champion, and that is the guy who beat the guy, who beat the guy, or got the belt via retirement. That's how it has always been, untill the brothers came along. But none of you see a problem with thus? We haven't had a true heavyweight champion since lewis retired!!! How long has it been? But instead of admitting that they are causing a problem, you would rather discuss how great they are? If boxing had a sactioning body, one of two things would happen. 1. The brothers would have to fight each other, or 2. They would be stripped of any belt they hold. It's called fighting the #1 contender, it's what boxing used to be about.

And yes, if pacman and mayweather never fight then their careers will be tainted. Hagler, leonard, and hearns all fought each other. And to be clear pacman and mayweather are as much of a problem as thr brothers are.