Guns N' Roses has "three albums worth of songs".

[RoboAxl]

And you know this how?? 

Common sense

We waited 15 years for Chinese Democracy because Axl basically sat on the songs and decided to keep tinkering with them. Everytime a new band member walked through his door, he decided he needed to rerecord sections so everyone's input can be there for all to see. Admirable in some twisted sense I'm sure, but slows down the process entirely just so an inferior guitar solo can be added or more fucking kazoo noises.

And even then, it still takes years for the album to be released. Which reflects to me that Axl had a severe lack of confidence in his own product (this is of course, my own speculation but I think a valid argument).

If he started to play some new songs live, I might have a sliver of confidence. But if the process was like that on CD, why would it be any different again? Those songs were ready to roll in 2002. The changes made after that point were minimal and pointless but it still took another 6 or so years for Axl to get his act together. History will repeat itself, Axl will start rerecording those songs so Ashba can have his day in the song. And what if Ashba leaves (unlikely I know seeing as Ashba is another Yes man Axl cherishes so much)? The process comes to a standstill again.

Axl is sitting on those songs, we know they have been recorded and are out there. Release them. I have my doubts Axl cares at this stage. Chi Dem was to be his masterpiece. I remember wanting it to be his last album anyway. If it had been the album it should have been, we wouldn't have needed another album. And I think that was Axl's intention. But due to his over tampering, the album fell short. It's still good, but not his masterpiece. And with backlash, I think any future albums are now up in the air.

I love people who think they know what GnR are doing and if any of the band members say something then "there wrong, lieing etc"

I'm pretty sure Ashba knows alot more whats happening with GnR than any of us.

We've been lied to before so "once burned" and all that.

Ashba is a Yes man, he hasn't a clue. None of them do. Axl is the only one who has a clue what's going on and none of them are willing to challenge him. That's the biggest obstacle to a new album release, IMO.

[seely]

Some news is better than no news 

And despite Roboaxl's...apprehensions, i'm sure we will see another album eventually. There was never any real talk or suggestion it would be GN'Rs last album...the idea of multiple albums is nothing new and has been mentioned plenty of times before, inclusing by Axl himself. He even confirmed nearly an album's worth of song titles back in the 2008 forum chats.

The big question ultimately, is when.
With any luck, Rock In Rio in October might be the start of something. No evidence as such to suggest it would be, but time will tell...

[DanGnR]

Common sense

We waited 15 years for Chinese Democracy because Axl basically sat on the songs and decided to keep tinkering with them. Everytime a new band member walked through his door, he decided he needed to rerecord sections so everyone's input can be there for all to see. Admirable in some twisted sense I'm sure, but slows down the process entirely just so an inferior guitar solo can be added or more fucking kazoo noises.

And even then, it still takes years for the album to be released. Which reflects to me that Axl had a severe lack of confidence in his own product (this is of course, my own speculation but I think a valid argument).

If he started to play some new songs live, I might have a sliver of confidence. But if the process was like that on CD, why would it be any different again? Those songs were ready to roll in 2002. The changes made after that point were minimal and pointless but it still took another 6 or so years for Axl to get his act together. History will repeat itself, Axl will start rerecording those songs so Ashba can have his day in the song. And what if Ashba leaves (unlikely I know seeing as Ashba is another Yes man Axl cherishes so much)? The process comes to a standstill again.

Axl is sitting on those songs, we know they have been recorded and are out there. Release them. I have my doubts Axl cares at this stage. Chi Dem was to be his masterpiece. I remember wanting it to be his last album anyway. If it had been the album it should have been, we wouldn't have needed another album. And I think that was Axl's intention. But due to his over tampering, the album fell short. It's still good, but not his masterpiece. And with backlash, I think any future albums are now up in the air.

We've been lied to before so "once burned" and all that.

Ashba is a Yes man, he hasn't a clue. None of them do. Axl is the only one who has a clue what's going on and none of them are willing to challenge him. That's the biggest obstacle to a new album release, IMO.

I look forward to you being proved wrong!

[RoboAxl]

I look forward to you being proved wrong!

Don't get me wrong man, I'd love to be wrong. I'm just a glass half empty kind guy

[Max_Power]

That's being a gnr fan for ya. Never be optimistic about anything.

We're still waiting for the december of 2008 (better video)

Holy crap! First time posting in the news section for a LOONG time

[dolemite]

About 10 years ago, Robin Finck said that he wrote "several albums worth of material" with Axl.  About two years ago, Sebastian Bach said that Axl has "two or three" discs of material that could make it onto "Chinese Democracy", and that "Chinese Democracy" might be a double album. 

Really, I fear that DJ Ashba is the latest bandmember to fall into delusion that Axl is going to put out a new album any day, or "soon" or "sometime this year".  I feel that DJ is stuck in hero-worship with Axl and really believes that the album is going to come out.  As a longtime fan, I don't believe it.  And, the ass-kissing/hero-worship type of guy is exactly the sort of guy that Axl loves having around, so they're a good duo.  Really, this is good, because if Axl buys into DJ's opinions about the material being phenominal or great, perhaps Axl will feel motivated to release it "sooner", as DJ appears confident will happen.

Anyway, hearing that there are 3 albums worth of material is not real news to me.  That's been known for years.  However, thanks for the effort at providing new news.   

Now, here's a bit of just total speculation.  I suspect that Axl has closer to 5-6 albums worth of material recorded, demos mostly, but that only 2-3 discs worth of that material is "hard rock" in style.  Back in the late 90's, the rumor was that Axl was going to record an industrial style album, and I think he did, perhaps two or three albums worth of demos with that style of music.  I mean, does everyone think that "Oh My God" was just a fluke?  Hell, Axl hired half the NIN band (the drummer, the guitarist, etc).  He wore those NIN "Sin" shirts all the time on stage, and it was well known that he was a big NIN fan.  But, when "Oh My God" was not received well by fans, I think Axl scrapped the industrial work he had done and started recording new stuff that was not industrial.  At least, that's my impression of what happened.  So, with the "new" songs, I wonder if these are the same demos that Finck worked on 10 years ago, or if these are real "new" songs.  So, we know that Finck wrote "several albums worth of material" with Axl, and we know that Bach heard about 3 albums worth, so now, how much material is really "new"??  I'm betting Axl has anywhere between 3-6 albums worth of demos recorded, if you include the "new" stuff he's tinkering with. 

[abaraxas]

Common sense

We waited 15 years for Chinese Democracy because Axl basically sat on the songs and decided to keep tinkering with them. Everytime a new band member walked through his door, he decided he needed to rerecord sections so everyone's input can be there for all to see. Admirable in some twisted sense I'm sure, but slows down the process entirely just so an inferior guitar solo can be added or more fucking kazoo noises.

And even then, it still takes years for the album to be released. Which reflects to me that Axl had a severe lack of confidence in his own product (this is of course, my own speculation but I think a valid argument).

If he started to play some new songs live, I might have a sliver of confidence. But if the process was like that on CD, why would it be any different again? Those songs were ready to roll in 2002. The changes made after that point were minimal and pointless but it still took another 6 or so years for Axl to get his act together. History will repeat itself, Axl will start rerecording those songs so Ashba can have his day in the song. And what if Ashba leaves (unlikely I know seeing as Ashba is another Yes man Axl cherishes so much)? The process comes to a standstill again.

Axl is sitting on those songs, we know they have been recorded and are out there. Release them. I have my doubts Axl cares at this stage. Chi Dem was to be his masterpiece. I remember wanting it to be his last album anyway. If it had been the album it should have been, we wouldn't have needed another album. And I think that was Axl's intention. But due to his over tampering, the album fell short. It's still good, but not his masterpiece. And with backlash, I think any future albums are now up in the air.

We've been lied to before so "once burned" and all that.

Ashba is a Yes man, he hasn't a clue. None of them do. Axl is the only one who has a clue what's going on and none of them are willing to challenge him. That's the biggest obstacle to a new album release, IMO.

Totally agree, and lets not forget after airing songs like silkworms and "the blues" and getting a negative reception from some circles Axl felt the need to go and rerecord them 

Ill refrain from commenting on Ashba here, except weve heard this from so many others before and it doesnt mean this material will see the light of day or be butchered by the time it is.

[DaniPhobos]

For me, the proof will be at Rock in Rio.  If all these "masterpieces" are ready to go, surely they'll play a couple during the set. Also, the huge crowd and stage would set a great opportunity to record / release a live DVD/BluRay, and use it to promote the next album, which (imo) they should be looking to release by the end of the year to strike while the iron is (hopefully) hot.

However, if they just play the standard setlist containing no new songs ("surprises"/rarely played songs don't count, barring Estranged) I will be very worried. RIR is a huge gig for the band imo, and it will hopefully prove whether or not all this big talk from DJ etc. is either true or total nonsense.

Time will tell....... 

[Exitus]

Please keep in mind that it wasn't all just Axl delaying the latest album...
There were complicated negotiations, about contracts etc.! Hopefully next time an album will get out not too long after it's finished (CD was allegedly completely finished by spring 2007).

[SilverRevolver]

GNR may release an album in the next few years, but if something ever happened to Axl (God Forbid) i think we'd see all the material the record company wouldn't pass up the opportunity which partly makes me a bit sick

[abaraxas]

Please keep in mind that it wasn't all just Axl delaying the latest album...
There were complicated negotiations, about contracts etc.! Hopefully next time an album will get out not too long after it's finished (CD was allegedly completely finished by spring 2007).

No disrespect to you, but theres always some monstrous, unseen and unexplained reason why GNR (Axl) fucks up, doesnt show or deliver "etc"

Hes the most persecuted man since JC it seems 

[jplpool]

No disrespect to you, but theres always some monstrous, unseen and unexplained reason why GNR (Axl) fucks up, doesnt show or deliver "etc"

Hes the most persecuted man since JC it seems 

Yeah, Axl is a failure.

it seems to me that all the man asks for is privacy.

But yeah, Axl is a failure, and you, as his equal, have every right to call him out. 

[abaraxas]

Youre putting words in my mouth, and as usual are just looking to argue...which Im more than happy to do, in another section of this forum.

What I said is my opinion, deal with it.

[Exitus]

No disrespect to you, but theres always some monstrous, unseen and unexplained reason why GNR (Axl) fucks up, doesnt show or deliver "etc"

No disrespect to you, but did you really read my comment?
I said clearly it wasn't all just Axl. No more and no less.
I'm sure Axl has delayed some things as well, but I myself am also sure he is NOT the only ONE to blame.
(Record companies, lawyers, agents, managers...)

[abaraxas]

I did read your whole post.

I just cant believe that anything other than Axl prevented the album coming out for SO LONG, same deal regarding the inactivity of GNR live,post 93.