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Should we have countries, or merely one world?
« on: February 28, 2011, 03:03:30 PM »
Ah...this thread. I shall endeavour to return this threadily readily to it's original state...that of sporting rivalry being elongated and stretched to a level of patriotic stupidity as displayed by the French manager...who hath just witnessed his team beaten by those very people he so damned with his indictment here previously shown.

I think being patriotic adds a certain flair to the competition where as long as no one is killed it makes it a really good thing. Why not put it all on the line on a soccer field instead of street fights and wars?

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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 03:13:05 PM »
But why have it all when we can live in one world without boundaries or borders, where people are free to move around as they wish without need of a passport? lets think about this for a minute - there is no difference between the land on one side of the France/Italy border to the other, so why should we not be free to move to the other side? Because governments decided not to allow us that freedom. And then we get patriotic. And this means that the ruling classes can keep us fighting each other, whether on a street, battlefield or sporting field rather than fighting them. Gyah. Makes me angry to think of it. And I know this isn't neccessarily what you were saying, but this is what gives me a hard time accepting patriotism as anything other than stupidity.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2011, 04:12:50 PM »

But why have it all when we can live in one world without boundaries or borders, where people are free to move around as they wish without need of a passport? lets think about this for a minute - there is no difference between the land on one side of the France/Italy border to the other, so why should we not be free to move to the other side? Because governments decided not to allow us that freedom. And then we get patriotic. And this means that the ruling classes can keep us fighting each other, whether on a street, battlefield or sporting field rather than fighting them. Gyah. Makes me angry to think of it. And I know this isn't neccessarily what you were saying, but this is what gives me a hard time accepting patriotism as anything other than stupidity.

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Your vision sounds swell.....It could work - until half of Africa & Asia springs up in Europe.

Besides, we enjoy the same rights of movement/immigration as the rest of the EU. I'm thinking of moving to Poland.....I like hairy women who take steroids and throw the shot-put.

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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2011, 04:58:46 PM »
But if we had a mentality of one world, with one currency, eventually opportunities would spread out accross the globe. And people would want to move to places with better climates, or mineral resources. So migration would be spread out evenly. People would move on if they couldn't get resources because of overcrowding, so it would sort its selfout anyway.

Although I think we have lost the thread of this thread :smoking:
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2011, 05:06:33 PM »
I like the diversity though. I like the different flags and cultures that come along with all the things that make us different.

I like that Italy is totally different than China. Of course on paper your koombaya idea sounds nice (especially to the kindergarden kids!) but there's no way it would work and I think humanity would actually lose a lot if we were all just "1" people.

Humans are not equal in my eyes in the same way that tigers and lions aren't equal but that doesn't mean it has to be a "who's better than who" thing. We can always appreciate and respect the tiger for being the tiger, and the lion for being the lion and thats alright.

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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2011, 05:23:56 PM »
But a lion and tiger are biologically different. All humans are the same, regardless of skin colour. And saying that the world would be one country does not mean the end of culture. London is markedly different to New York, or even Glasgow. This would not change. As it is, globalisation means that the world is becoming homogenised, and we are seeing McDonald's in Kabul and Baghdad, Moscow and Paris. Places are starting to look the same anyway; removing arbitrary boundaries isn't going to speed this process up, if anything it will slow it down because there won't be 'new markets' for companies to move to in the same sense as now.

And why wouldn't it work? It used to be that way before we decided that might was right and we should have wars to protect territories. I mean, what if an alien race attacked us tomorrow? We would unite, and we would feel like one planet. One planet of humans, against the rest of the universe ooh rah. There is no reason we shouldn't aspire to this now.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2011, 05:50:31 PM »
It's just not feasible. There's too many cultural differences in the world. Remember the hullabaloo over the possible introduction of sharia law?

Not to mention greed - the type that sees oil-rich Sheikh's buying players for citeh instead of giving the money to the Palestinian RSPCA.
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2011, 06:20:10 PM »
I understand it isn't something that could happen just over night. But we didn't start out this way, and there is no reason we can't start to work towards one world. It's already happening with the EU and the UN; it just needs to keep going that way. I still don't see why it isn't possible. All the stumbling blocks to it can be overcome eventually, it just takes time.
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2011, 06:51:02 PM »
You should check out the venus project; interesting concept.
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2011, 06:51:38 PM »
I understand it isn't something that could happen just over night. But we didn't start out this way, and there is no reason we can't start to work towards one world. It's already happening with the EU and the UN; it just needs to keep going that way. I still don't see why it isn't possible. All the stumbling blocks to it can be overcome eventually, it just takes time.


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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2011, 07:01:14 PM »
right now I have such a selfish conception of life that I dont care about my nation, other countries and the world in general. so, since I only care about myself I dont give a damn about how the world is divided.


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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2011, 07:01:44 PM »


And war. Time and war.

And after that it would lead to one almighty civil war.
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2011, 07:25:51 PM »

And why wouldn't it work? It used to be that way before we decided that might was right and we should have wars to protect territories. I mean, what if an alien race attacked us tomorrow? We would unite, and we would feel like one planet. One planet of humans, against the rest of the universe ooh rah. There is no reason we shouldn't aspire to this now.

the aliens invation fear is kinda funny. We make movies based on malicious beings who try to conquer us when the things we've done to ourselves are much worse. who can be more evil than human beings, think about the holocaust, the atomic bomb, etc.


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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2011, 07:34:44 PM »
if we were one country what happens if we are all ruled by nazis?
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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2011, 07:37:49 PM »
if we were one country what happens if we are all ruled by nazis?

I'm blond  :cool:
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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2011, 07:52:08 PM »
I'm blond  :cool:

Im blonde and blue eyed  :coffee
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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2011, 08:22:52 PM »

And war. Time and war.

No no, it would remove the need for war, so long as it was done properly.

if we were one country what happens if we are all ruled by nazis?

Same thing as is happening in Libya right now.
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2011, 08:29:07 PM »
World unity will never work.....

Who would want to share anything with the french?  Fuck that

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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2011, 08:31:33 PM »
You mean you wouldn't want to share this person?


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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2011, 08:34:51 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2011, 08:55:47 PM »
I would support a one world (whereby we all co-exist without living at the expense of others) but for a few reasons.

A Union of lands to form some sort of Utopia would be more easily governed than the present political landscape. Therefore the agenda of certain sinister individuals would be significantly simplified. Imagine Adolf Hitler with the world at his disposal...

If we're talking a Utopia of anarchy then maybe. But humans naturally want what they see they could potentially have. To change that characteristic would involve some sort of social engineering (and we all know where that concept goes...).

I just don't think it would be sustainable (there are always non-conformists).
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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2011, 11:16:02 PM »
Do you guys not feel it's completely and utterly ridiculous that we are prohibited from travelling to some parts of the world though? And that when you look at a map, there are lines all over it designating borders? They are completely arbitrary. If there was a reason we couldn't visit these places then fair enough, but it's simply because some people agreed that they could have that bit and therefore other's can't visit it easily. It's annoying is what it is!

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« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2011, 04:18:45 AM »
Damn globalists.....

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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2011, 05:04:11 AM »
World unity will never work.....

Who would want to share anything with the french?  Fuck that
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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2011, 05:07:09 AM »
.     Share the poutine!!!

It's bad enough we touch Canada, but to be united under one banner with them? :O


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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2011, 05:12:23 AM »
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« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2011, 05:18:31 AM »
:nod:


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« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2011, 10:13:25 AM »
Damn globalists.....

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« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2011, 11:03:33 AM »
I dont want one world.
Countries and commonwealths for sure, keep away from us you crazy fucking americans/"people of middle eastern appearance"  :love2:
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« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2011, 11:42:43 PM »
I like flags.
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« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2011, 08:57:46 AM »
one world wouldn't work, it would mean one language, one culture, one belief/religion and so on so forth
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« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2011, 09:25:56 AM »
one world wouldn't work, it would mean one language, one culture, one belief/religion and so on so forth

It would if i was appointed leader.....

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« Reply #33 on: March 03, 2011, 02:02:34 AM »
one world wouldn't work, it would mean one language, one culture, one belief/religion and so on so forth

Perhaps, but we're already moving towards that now. I honestly think that a one world system is inevitable; the more we reach out into space, the more it'll have to be that way. Obviously this isn't going to happen in our lifetimes, but it would be nice. The main thing that annoys me is the fact it seems so totally stupid that you can't just go where you want, just because some place has a different flag to where you are. The ground itself is completely indifferent to us. The animals that live in these countries are completely indifferent. It's just humans that feel we need to be exclusive, and it's weird. But the way things are going now, we'll end up as one world sooner rather than later methinks.
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« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2011, 02:29:29 AM »

Perhaps, but we're already moving towards that now. I honestly think that a one world system is inevitable; the more we reach out into space, the more it'll have to be that way. Obviously this isn't going to happen in our lifetimes, but it would be nice. The main thing that annoys me is the fact it seems so totally stupid that you can't just go where you want, just because some place has a different flag to where you are. The ground itself is completely indifferent to us. The animals that live in these countries are completely indifferent. It's just humans that feel we need to be exclusive, and it's weird. But the way things are going now, we'll end up as one world sooner rather than later methinks.

I don't think countires really signify much other then a region thats got its rulers and cultures to live by. Other then that you could say alot of the world is becoming more similar between parts, so I believe your absolutely right.
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« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2011, 04:51:49 AM »
Me, calling the french my kin? I'd sooner die
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« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2011, 12:22:55 AM »
I quite like the French. Mainly because Napoleon was the man :bow:
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« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2011, 05:27:06 AM »
If our world was already one then having the world divided amongst itself would be as terrifying as a world united as one country or city or whatever. Who gives a fuck really. Just bring on change and bring the benefits as well as the cons of anything that will be brought up. In other words I'm not a part of this world. I am dust! So I don't really care about what the presidents are trying to do. They're all fucking nuts.
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« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2012, 01:44:46 PM »
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I tell ya, if Alexander the Great had succeeded the world would be a much better place :rockon:

Bullshit. The mess which Alexander left can't be solved until this day.
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