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Re: Tom Hardy is...
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2011, 11:32:07 PM »
Here's my take on the new Dark Knight trilogy casting:

Tom Hardy. I don't really know what to say. My main problem is that Tom Hardy isn't the biggest guy around, and given Bane is like 7ft tall and 500 lbs, the only way I see Hardy as Bane is by making Bane an average sized guy. And that seems kinda hard to accept, I mean Bane's main appeal was he was really the first person to "beat" Batman in a sense, and he's basically a human Hulk with a genius level intellect. But having an average sized, albeit muscular guy doesn't really seem like "Bane" to me.

Secondly, doesn't Hardy have a British accent? Bane shouldn't have a brit accent, I'm nitpicking but still.

On the other hand, Hardy can portray a very charming and intellectual villain, that I'll give him, and he is a good actor. My main beef isn't with his acting, but him playing Bane, the size difference, c'mon.

Anne Hathaway. Great pick, she oozes sophistication and sexuality when she wants, and she can indeed portray a very "high class" gal. I see absolutely nothing wrong with Hathaway as Selina Kyle.

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Re: Tom Hardy is...
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2011, 03:19:04 AM »
http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/blogs/popcornbiz/Who-is-Batmans-Dark-Knight-Rises-Enemy-Bane-We-Ask-the-Guy-Who-Created-Him-114523229.html
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You knew The Joker. Catwoman, sure. Even Two-Face rang a bell. But unless you’re a fairly faithful Batfan, you may be wondering, on the heels of last week’s “The Dark Knight Rises” villain announcement, “Just who the heck is Bane?”
To help educate you about Batman’s impending big-screen adversary – the super-steroid-fueled Bane, to be played by Tom Hardy – PopcornBiz went straight to the source: comic book writer Chuck Dixon, who co-created the character with artist Graham Nolan back in 1993.
“The crowning achievement of all my work is definitely Bane,” says Dixon, who wrote around 500 stories starring Batman and his supporting cast over an 11-year period and was as surprised as anyone that his creation had been called to the big leagues. “Graham called me yesterday morning. I had no clue. He said he'd just read it on the Internet. We were both as giddy as schoolgirls that Bane is going to get another shot at cinema stardom.”
Another shot? We’ll get to that.
Bane came to being as a result of a multi-creator storyline called “Knightfall” in which, to facilitate a new, darker hero taking on the cowl, Batman would have his back broken by a major new enemy created just for the occasion. Among the editorial team Dixon in particular was concerned that the newbie baddie be well-received by readers.
“If we failed in creating this new villain it was going to seem like a lame stunt,” he recalls. “I argued that it's nearly impossible to create a character to be popular. Comic book characters who become popular tend to be almost created by mistake: One-off characters like Wolverine, who's now iconic, or the Silver Surfer, who was created just to be a friend for Galactus.” Thus legendary Batman editor Dennis O’Neill charged Dixon and Nolan with creating a compelling origin for the villain in a one-shot special titled “Batman: Vengeance of Bane.”
“The parameters for him had to be that he must be the intellectual and physical equal of Batman, that it would be believable that he could beat Batman and injure him badly enough to put him out of action for a year,” he says. “He is in every way a self-made man, just as Bruce Wayne made himself into Batman. Bane made himself into Bane, but with much darker purposes.”
“We created a backstory for him where you had a little bit of sympathy for him because his circumstances were so lousy: Bane basically grew up in prison serving his father's life sentence in some Central American hellhole,” says Dixon of the initially nameless character who uses cunning and brute strength to escape his prison home, arrive in Gotham and pump up his physique with Venom, a steroid once used and rejected by Batman after it made him a hyper-aggressive, nearly insane addict – Venom quickly unbalances the driven Bane as well. “It's always good to have a little sympathy for the bad guy if you want him to stick in the public's mind.”
“He turned out to be popular,” says Dixon. “He's had about a dozen action figures, he's been in cartoons, he's been in one of the other movies, and he's got a whole new level of popularity from the 'Arkham Asylum' video game.”
As that “other movie” was the universally reviled, Joel Schumacher-directed, Bat-nippled “Batman and Robin,” it something of an ignominious film debut for Bane. “He was handled poorly in a movie that was lousy,” admits the writer. “Bane was a thug. He only had a couple of lines – and I wouldn't even call it dialogue.”
Nevertheless, with modern comic book creator profit-sharing being much improved in the years since Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster created Superman, financially Dixon and Nolan “did all right off of 'Batman and Robin' – and it was a bomb and Bane was barely in it! Obviously now Bane will be much more prominently featured in a film that promises to be a huge hit. So, yeah, I'm not complaining at all. DC has been taking care of me every step of the way. I got money when Bane was a pasta shape in Spaghetti-O's.”
Given that director Christopher Nolan’s previous Batfilm “The Dark Knight” was one of the most profitable movies in cinema history, Dixon can expect a nice chunk of change from “DKR,” but he’s really excited about what Nolan and Hardy have in store for his creation.
“I'm real confident that we're going to get something close to the Bane that appeared in the comic book,” says Dixon, who currently writes titles including the “G.I. Joe” comic book for publisher IDW and “The Simpsons” for Bongo Comics. But he’s not expecting to be brought in as a consultant. “It'd be nice to hear from them, but it’s not like I'm going to wait by the phone. They're going to do what they're going to do. I'm not going to worry about that.”
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Re: Tom Hardy is...
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2011, 07:04:40 PM »
What the fuck!?

http://batman-news.com/2011/01/28/robin-williams-as-hugo-strange-in-the-dark-knight-rises/
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Robin Williams is no stranger to Batman movies. He was offered the role of The Joker back in Tim Burton’s Batman, only to have it taken away when Jack Nicholson expressed interest. Then he was offered the role of The Riddler in Joel Schumacher’s Batman Forever, but they ended up giving it to Jim Carrey instead. Since then, Robin Williams has been lobbying to get cast in one of Christopher Nolan’s Batman films — is his wish about to be granted?

RW as Strange? Hmm...
about 3 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerryu00ae
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The tweet above from BOF’s Jett peaked my interest this morning. Jett has mentioned Robin Williams before on his BOF message board and Facebook page… could he be onto something? The last time Jett dropped hints about possible The Dark Knight Rises villains was when he kept mentioning Bane on his message board, and we know how that turned out. I’ve also heard that Hugo Strange would be appearing in The Dark Knight Rises, though my source was wrong with his casting. So what do you guys think? Wild speculation, or may Jett be onto something here? I hope Robin Williams gets a role no matter what it is. He’s been very vocal about being a Batman fan, and it’s a shame that he’s been burned so many times in the past. Sound off in the comments and let me know what you think!



Read more: http://batman-news.com/2011/01/28/robin-williams-as-hugo-strange-in-the-dark-knight-rises/#ixzz1CM2MZhCD
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Re: Tom Hardy is...
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2011, 09:37:29 PM »
Here's my take on the new Dark Knight trilogy casting:

Tom Hardy. I don't really know what to say. My main problem is that Tom Hardy isn't the biggest guy around, and given Bane is like 7ft tall and 500 lbs, the only way I see Hardy as Bane is by making Bane an average sized guy. And that seems kinda hard to accept, I mean Bane's main appeal was he was really the first person to "beat" Batman in a sense, and he's basically a human Hulk with a genius level intellect. But having an average sized, albeit muscular guy doesn't really seem like "Bane" to me.

Secondly, doesn't Hardy have a British accent? Bane shouldn't have a brit accent, I'm nitpicking but still.

On the other hand, Hardy can portray a very charming and intellectual villain, that I'll give him, and he is a good actor. My main beef isn't with his acting, but him playing Bane, the size difference, c'mon.

Anne Hathaway. Great pick, she oozes sophistication and sexuality when she wants, and she can indeed portray a very "high class" gal. I see absolutely nothing wrong with Hathaway as Selina Kyle.

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  I think Tom Hardy is gonna be a real good Bane, he does not have to be over the top huge. Look what they did with Scarecrow in Batman Begins, they did not make him super skinny and tall like he is portrayed in the comics and it worked.  I think if they stick with the same formula they have been ever thing will turn out ok.

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Re: Tom Hardy is...
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2011, 09:46:57 PM »
I thought he was great in Inception, I've no idea who or what Bane is though. I'm confident this'll be a great movie like the other two.

Hope this gives you a idea of who Bane is.. 


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Re: Tom Hardy is...
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2011, 11:07:41 PM »
  I think Tom Hardy is gonna be a real good Bane, he does not have to be over the top huge. Look what they did with Scarecrow in Batman Begins, they did not make him super skinny and tall like he is portrayed in the comics and it worked.  I think if they stick with the same formula they have been ever thing will turn out ok.



Yeah but remember Bane from that godawful Schumacher movie? That guy in the gimp mask who doesn't look physically intimidating at all? That's what I'm afraid Hardy will end up as
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Re: Tom Hardy is...
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2011, 12:00:05 AM »
people had a go at Heath Ledger's selection as The Joker, and look what he did

I'm waiting for a trailer or a proper look at Bane before I pass judgement
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Re: Tom Hardy is...
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2011, 04:45:28 PM »
Here's my take on the new Dark Knight trilogy casting:

Tom Hardy. I don't really know what to say. My main problem is that Tom Hardy isn't the biggest guy around, and given Bane is like 7ft tall and 500 lbs, the only way I see Hardy as Bane is by making Bane an average sized guy. And that seems kinda hard to accept, I mean Bane's main appeal was he was really the first person to "beat" Batman in a sense, and he's basically a human Hulk with a genius level intellect. But having an average sized, albeit muscular guy doesn't really seem like "Bane" to me.

Realism dude. Nolan was never going to do a 7ft mound of muscle. He can address the muscle issue with CG, but I think he'll just have Hardy bulk up as much as humanely possible without descending into the realm of fantasy.

Don't get me wrong, I want as comic accurate a Bane as possible, but are there really that many 7ft, steroid ridden muscle men in Hollywood? Not unless you hire an ex-wrestler and we all know how well that worked out last time...

We are going to have to make certain concessions on appearance, much as I love Nolan's reinvention of the characters aesthetically, it's still his weakest area. Where he really shines is making them as close in spirit to the comics. Hence why his non-permawhite and too short Joker is the most accurate portrayal on the big screen so far.

Secondly, doesn't Hardy have a British accent? Bane shouldn't have a brit accent, I'm nitpicking but still.

Sure does and to be fair, I've never seen him do anything other than his British accent in films. But I'm sure if they go that route, he'll put on an accent. He does look exotic (:unibrow:) for a Brit so I think he could pull off a Latino.

Plus, Bane in the comics learned six languages while in prison, it stands to reason he may have adopted some of the accents along the way. Unlikely, but who knows.

And his dad was a white British mercenary anyway :slywink:


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Re: Tom Hardy is...
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2011, 05:56:12 PM »
people had a go at Heath Ledger's selection as The Joker, and look what he did

I'm waiting for a trailer or a proper look at Bane before I pass judgement

I'm not talking about Hardy's acting, just that he and bane are way to aesthetically different.

Realism dude. Nolan was never going to do a 7ft mound of muscle. He can address the muscle issue with CG, but I think he'll just have Hardy bulk up as much as humanely possible without descending into the realm of fantasy.

Don't get me wrong, I want as comic accurate a Bane as possible, but are there really that many 7ft, steroid ridden muscle men in Hollywood? Not unless you hire an ex-wrestler and we all know how well that worked out last time...

We are going to have to make certain concessions on appearance, much as I love Nolan's reinvention of the characters aesthetically, it's still his weakest area. Where he really shines is making them as close in spirit to the comics. Hence why his non-permawhite and too short Joker is the most accurate portrayal on the big screen so far.

Sure does and to be fair, I've never seen him do anything other than his British accent in films. But I'm sure if they go that route, he'll put on an accent. He does look exotic (:unibrow:) for a Brit so I think he could pull off a Latino.

Plus, Bane in the comics learned six languages while in prison, it stands to reason he may have adopted some of the accents along the way. Unlikely, but who knows.

And his dad was a white British mercenary anyway :slywink:




Do you think Nolan will do CGI? Because in my mind, having Eames in a gimp mask invoke fear. Some kind of kinky fetish, maybe, but I wouldn't feel intimidated
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Re: Tom Hardy is...
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2011, 06:13:04 PM »
I do not think he'll do CG. Or a gimp mask. I want something accurate enough, but I'm aware that certain concessions will be made for the character's appearance.

I'll have to wait for some set pictures though because I honestly don't know how Nolan will be able to make a mask for Bane without it looking silly. I'd assume he might do away with the mask entirely, but he managed it with Scarecrow, with it being just the right side of silly. He probably won't wear the mask that often anyway
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Re: Tom Hardy is...
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2011, 04:55:29 AM »
Needless to say, I got high hopes for Tom Hardy, he better do a good job :nod:

That aside, anything else to discuss about the new Batman movie? The possible Robin Williams inclusion (what the fuck), Will Bale finally do away with that silly voice? Am I the only one hoping for a sex scene featuring Anne Hathaway?  :unibrow:
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Re: Tom Hardy is...
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2011, 07:10:19 PM »
The voice will be toned down after all the criticism it's gotten. It was tampered with in post-production though, so the blame lies more with Nolan than Bale on that one.

Sex scene with Bane and Catwoman?
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Re: Tom Hardy is...
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2011, 11:27:10 PM »
You know what would be awesome? If Nolan got Kevin Conroy to do the Batman voice :drool:

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Re: Tom Hardy is...
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