One thing I don't understand!

[fan]

How are the lists about these big tours created? Are only the artists with full record company support included in this lists?

I mean, I don't understand how can Guns N' Roses not be on this.

http://www.billboard.com/features/top-25-tours-2010-1004134022.story#/features/top-25-tours-2010-1004134022.story

For example... On the 6th place you have James Taylor & Carole King who suposedly sold a little less then 700 000 tickets.

Guns N' Roses Tour in 2006 was played, in Europe alone, in front of 700 000 people combined. Now this year they played massive shows in South America and Europe too. In my opinion the number should be even higher. But GN'R are nowhere on the list.

Not that it really matters, I just think it's false information that Phish's tour grossed more money than Guns N' Roses tour. Unless GN'R tickets are so very cheap. I highly doubt that.

[vecta]

Maybe because they didn’t do any north America tours billboard wont recognize them

[Catcher88]

Maybe because they didn’t do any north America tours billboard wont recognize them

I guess that's the problem. Rammstein made more money too than the last ten or so on this list.

[The Spaghetti Incident?]

Oh trust me... G&R tickets aren't cheap

Then again Bon Jovi tickets were like $50 more.

[Johan!]

Maybe because they didn’t do any north America tours billboard wont recognize them

How is Canada not North America?

[Catcher88]

How is Canada not North America?

North America = USA
Canada = Canada

(not in my opinion but that's what Americans tell me)

[better2112]

U2 made more money doing 22 show over Lady Gaga's 122 shows 

[jplpool]

North America = USA
Canada = Canada

(not in my opinion but that's what Americans tell me)

Cool advert for Americans. 

[vecta]

How is Canada not North America?

wow next canadian you meet tell him hes an american see what he says, or even better tell an american hes canadian they dont like it 

[jplpool]

wow next canadian you meet tell him hes an american see what he says, or even better tell an american hes canadian they dont like it 

 

N. America is a continent - Mexico, U.S.A, Canada & Greenland.

[vecta]

i know

[jplpool]

Yeah right! Sorry - my bad. Your previous posts make that perfectly clear. 

[vecta]

im talking about the people americans people who live in the usa dont like being called canadians, and people who live in canada dont like being called americans

[jplpool]

Why the hell would somebody call a U.S citizen a Canadian? Who mentioned that?

The question you were asked was "How is Canada not North America." If somebody asked you how England wasn't Europe, would you answer - "English people don't like being called French" ?

[vecta]

my post

Maybe because they didn’t do any north America tours billboard wont recognize them

then

How is Canada not North America?

i was replying to this as billboard is from the U.S. it probable will not count canada as a north american tour for the reasons i said in later posts

[jplpool]

Who gives a shit what billboard called it? They could call it the "mars & jupiter tour" but they would still have to count the revenue raised.

It was you who said they hadn't toured N. America....nobody else.

[vecta]

Who gives a shit what billboard called it?

     is that not what this thread about?????????????????????

i was Simply offering an explanation for why billboard chose to ignore GnR. perhaps I should have said GnR didn’t do a FULL north American tour will that make you happy

[jplpool]

    is that not what this thread about?????????????????????

i was Simply offering an explanation for why billboard chose to ignore GnR. perhaps I should have said GnR didn’t do a FULL north American tour will that make you happy

No - it's nothing to do with what this thread is about. This thread is about tour revenue.

If Billboard are refusing to credit the Canadian leg of the tour as part of the "world tour" because they don't like being called Canadian  then it's probably the most retarded piece of journalism ever.

Will that make me happy? short of you coming upto Liverpool today & giving me a gobble - I really don't think you're capable of making me happy.

[vecta]

No - it's nothing to do with what this thread is about. This thread is about tour revenue.

If Billboard are refusing to credit the Canadian leg of the tour as part of the "world tour" because they don't like being called Canadian  then it's probably the most retarded piece of journalism ever.

its every thing to do with it.

im not saying they didnt credit the canadian leg, im saying they didnt credit the whole tour because of the lack of the usual american dates (L.A. new york, ect) on the tour,. not because they dont like being called canadian.   

o -
Will that make me happy? short of you coming upto Liverpool today & giving me a gobble - I really don't think you're capable of making me happy.

grow up 

[jplpool]

Grow up?.....Take a joke.

You're talking bollocks mate - so money earned in Canada didn't count because Guns never performed in NYC?

I could go on....But this conversation is not appealing to me very much - I've had more intelligent reasoning from my 8 year old daughter. 

*bows out*

[vecta]

it was my thought on why billboard over looked a tour that we all know has made a lot of money.

I don’t see you offering up any ideas on how it was over looked. 

end of Convocation

[jplpool]

My thoughts on the media treatment of this band are well known - It's to do with the control/relationship Interscope have with mass media outlets. IMO - they want this band destoyed, and want a reunion. How do you think Karaoke acts such as The Pussycat Dolls get instant recognition by the mass media? It's because they have the power of Interscope behind them.

If Interscope want Guns to get good press - believe me, Guns would get good press. Even if it was full of spin.

The only explanation you've offered is that they never toured N. America...So...o.k. ..let's take Canada out of the equation - Guns have still earnt more money from the rest of the World Tour than a lot of the artists on that list. So that's not a very good answer.

End of ermmm...Conversatio n.

[Johan!]

Makes me wonder if people from South America get offended that they live in the continent South America.

[The Spaghetti Incident?]

My thoughts on the media treatment of this band are well known - It's to do with the control/relationship Interscope have with mass media outlets. IMO - they want this band destoyed, and want a reunion. How do you think Karaoke acts such as The Pussycat Dolls get instant recognition by the mass media? It's because they have the power of Interscope behind them.

If Interscope want Guns to get good press - believe me, Guns would get good press. Even if it was full of spin.

The only explanation you've offered is that they never toured N. America...So...o.k. ..let's take Canada out of the equation - Guns have still earnt more money from the rest of the World Tour than a lot of the artists on that list. So that's not a very good answer.

End of ermmm...Conversatio n.

I understand totally what he meant, all conspiracy theories aside and without reading the article maybe Billboard only counted tours that passed through N. America and ignored international tours, festivals and etc.

[jplpool]

Conspiracy theories?  Yeah Interscope couldn't buy a a band good publicity 

[jplpool]

Oh & errr - incase you missed the whole point of how that little debate started....the tour did pass through N. America.
And no....they never ignored festivals and international tours.

[The Spaghetti Incident?]

Right, one show (festival) equates to a North American tour then.

[jplpool]

You on a wind up 'ere or what? 

Surely you've noted that people have pointed out that Canada is N. America?

I really couldn't give a shit why Guns are not on this list (although I stand by my beliefs over the Interscope/media thing, regardless of whether that is why they are on the list or not) I was just giving the guy some shit for his silly answer to Johan's question. I mean... he's a noob - he needed to baptised 

[jplpool]

Would I want Guns to be above; say for example U2 on that list? Most definitely not! Judging by the money them fuckers made, it would have cost me an arm & a leg to see Guns.

[The Spaghetti Incident?]

Lol'd.

[Catcher88]

You on a wind up 'ere or what? 

Surely you've noted that people have pointed out that Canada is N. America?

I really couldn't give a shit why Guns are not on this list (although I stand by my beliefs over the Interscope/media thing, regardless of whether that is why they are on the list or not) I was just giving the guy some shit for his silly answer to Johan's question. I mean... he's a noob - he needed to baptised 

The shows in the US were so rare (and mainly acoustic, and therefore for small audience) that it isn't worth calling it a US tour. I assume vecta was right about Guns not being mentioned because of the absence of any worthy US tour of Guns this year (if it would be worthy, why would Guns still want to tour the US now?). So we are all guessing, assuming, jplpool, we can't read minds and all that has been said about Canada and the USA is not our opinion, just opinions we know, so relax, dude  !

[jplpool]

The shows in the US were so rare (and mainly acoustic, and therefore for small audience) that it isn't worth calling it a US tour. I assume vecta was right about Guns not being mentioned because of the absence of any worthy US tour of Guns this year (if it would be worthy, why would Guns still want to tour the US now?). So we are all guessing, assuming, jplpool, we can't read minds and all that has been said about Canada and the USA is not our opinion, just opinions we know, so relax, dude  !

I'm not even sure a facepalm can do justice to the stupidity of this post. 

[Coma16]

I'm not even sure a facepalm can do justice to the stupidity of this post. 

[jplpool]

what you trying to say?

[Coma16]

what you trying to say?

I think it is fair to say that the above facepalm can do a little justice to the stupidity of the previous post from Tosser88.

[jplpool]

 

If you were a girl I'd kiss you - alas, you're not - would a willy up the bum be an appropriate way of showing my thanks?

[Coma16]

A simple 'cheers!' will do 

[jplpool]

  I can still say cheers when I have my willy up a bum.

[Coma16]

I can still say cheers when I have my willy up a bum.

I normally say 'Here comes the fiesta' 

[jplpool]

You gonna take my willy then?

[Trixi]

What's this thread about again?

[Coma16]

You gonna take my willy then?

Take your willy? Um no... But I could fuck you till you love me, faggot! (gotta love Mike Tyson during his mental breakdown)

[Catcher88]

I'm not even sure a facepalm can do justice to the stupidity of this post. 

Sorry I thought you didn't understand because you said and acted like you didn't understand...

Can we go back tot the topic and let the (pseudo-gay) infants play somwhere else  ?

[jplpool]

I'm a boner-fide homosexual [see what I did there?]

[Percy]

I remember my 1st beer . Lmfao .