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Tesla guitarist accuses GnR of stealing Patience
« on: November 22, 2010, 11:05:33 AM »
found this on line...... :O

Appearing last week on VH1 Classic’s, “That Metal Show” Tesla guitarist Frank Hannon alleged that Guns N’ Roses’ famous acoustic ballad “Patience” was stolen from his band.

The accusation came during a debate over whether or not “Patience” was a better acoustic “hard rock” song than Tesla’s “Signs.”  (Some nerds debate the nuances of “Superman” or “Star Wars”; others of us argue about 80s “hair” bands! — don’t judge…).

When co-host Eddie Trunk dared to say G-N-R’s “Patience” was better, because, unlike “Signs,” which was a cover, “‘Patience’ is an original song,” Tesla’s Hannon responded, saying:
Frank Hannon: “Let me tell you something: “Patience”, we were label mates with Gun ‘n Roses on Geffen, there’s a demo of a song that we wrote called “Better Off Without You”. It is “Patience” note for note.”

Audience: “WOOOOAHHH.”

Eddie Trunk: “Sue their asses”

Don Jamieson: “Breaking news on “That Metal Show””

Jim Florentine: “And I got something else, he whistled on the song dude. You don’t whistle on a song, you sing a song.”

… Later in the segment, Hannon said he wasn’t sure if the song had been stolen directly by G-N-R — by their management — or by Geffen.  (G-N-R rhythm guitarist Izzy Stradlin is credited as the primary writer of “Patience”).
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Re: Telsa accuse GnR of Stealing Patinece
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2010, 11:14:56 AM »
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Re: Telsa accuse GnR of Stealing Patinece
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2010, 11:26:21 AM »
Trying to take credit fankie :coffee   not gonna work!!!
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Re: Telsa accuse GnR of Stealing Patinece
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2010, 11:53:55 AM »
Amazing they didn't say this when Patience first came out.

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Re: Telsa accuse GnR of Stealing Patinece
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2010, 12:03:12 PM »
Probably just a load of bullshit. If it was really like this we would have heard something in 1988, not 22 years later.

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Re: Telsa accuse GnR of Stealing Patinece
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2010, 12:05:15 PM »
Lol Tesla.

Would be funny if it was true. And it would be funny if the best of G&R's work really was written by songwriters or other bands. The only reason G&R are set apart from their contemporaries is that they were their own musicians, but if any of this had truth to it I would not be a fan of G&R any longer. Buying music is a big fucking no no.

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Re: Tesla guitarist accuses GnR of stealing Patience
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2010, 01:21:14 PM »
Ah, the age old rivalry between the two biggest bands of the period, both renowned songwriters. Oh no, wait. Tesla are that band who scratch a living by putting the occasional song on a 'Classic Rock' free CD. Guns N' Roses are Guns N' Roses. So fuck this shit.
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Re: Tesla guitarist accuses GnR of stealing Patience
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2010, 02:13:57 PM »
Ah, the age old rivalry between the two biggest bands of the period, both renowned songwriters. Oh no, wait. Tesla are that band who scratch a living by putting the occasional song on a 'Classic Rock' free CD. Guns N' Roses are Guns N' Roses. So fuck this shit.

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They've actually give away whole c.d's of Tesla material in Classic Rock - I've got one stored away somewhere, it's called "Reel 2 Reel" or "Reel To Reel" I think. Also, there was more to come in the next edition that I never bought.  :fpalm:
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Re: Tesla guitarist accuses GnR of stealing Patience
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2010, 02:32:11 PM »
Lol  :giggle:

I don't know if it is stolen (doesn't seem likely to me), but the fact is that the whistling part isn't. And the whistling part is awsome  :bow:, whatever the others say.
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Re: Tesla guitarist accuses GnR of stealing Patience
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2010, 02:55:53 PM »
oh man come on! this is old and just bullshit

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=170281

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Hello Everyone,
The demo of "better off without you" i was talking about is an acoustic guitar version we did live at the oasis ballroom in 1985 that Geffen Records had on a 'live' cassette tape of a show we played. They did make some copies of it with labels on them and handed them out to people before we made our first album. If anyone can find one that would be awesome. I was not talking about the piano version that's floating around on a bootleg.
ALSO FOR THE RECORD: "Better off without you" is a song in "D" and it does the "D/F# to G chord change in it. This is also the same type of change that G~n~R used at the end of patience, and also the same change that John Lennon uses in "Imagine" ...I do not seriously feel that we wrote "Patience" in ANY WAY.
The song "Patience" is a great song that they wrote themselves, and it is only the end part that has any similar part to the guitar chords we used. I apologize for any controversy or dis-respect I may have projected in my joking around with eddie trunk about this.
Thanks, Frank Hannon
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Re: Tesla guitarist accuses GnR of stealing Patience
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2010, 03:04:50 PM »
It's old? from November 16th..

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Re: Tesla guitarist accuses GnR of stealing Patience
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2010, 03:06:34 PM »
It's old? from November 16th..

november 16 is the apology from one of the guys in tesla...did you read what i posted?

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Hello Everyone,
The demo of "better off without you" i was talking about is an acoustic guitar version we did live at the oasis ballroom in 1985 that Geffen Records had on a 'live' cassette tape of a show we played. They did make some copies of it with labels on them and handed them out to people before we made our first album. If anyone can find one that would be awesome. I was not talking about the piano version that's floating around on a bootleg.
ALSO FOR THE RECORD: "Better off without you" is a song in "D" and it does the "D/F# to G chord change in it. This is also the same type of change that G~n~R used at the end of patience, and also the same change that John Lennon uses in "Imagine" ...I do not seriously feel that we wrote "Patience" in ANY WAY.
The song "Patience" is a great song that they wrote themselves, and it is only the end part that has any similar part to the guitar chords we used. I apologize for any controversy or dis-respect I may have projected in my joking around with eddie trunk about this.Thanks, Frank Hannon
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Re: Tesla guitarist accuses GnR of stealing Patience
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2010, 03:13:36 PM »
Nobody else around here had heard about it yet, so stop being such a great fan who knows all about it already but yet failed to post about it when it was news.

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Re: Tesla guitarist accuses GnR of stealing Patience
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2010, 03:21:05 PM »
Tesla = Poor (trampiest of the tramps) mans version of Aerosmith.

Saw them at Donnington, they suck Tyler and Perry arse.

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Re: Tesla guitarist accuses GnR of stealing Patience
« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2010, 03:22:23 PM »
Nobody else around here had heard about it yet, so stop being such a great fan who knows all about it already but yet failed to post about it when it was news.

sorry i will share the knowledge next time!
"Slash either should not have been in Guns to begin with or should have left after 'Lies.' In a nutshell, personally I consider him a cancer and better removed, avoided -- and the less anyone heard of him or his supporters, the better"