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Re: Post your pets?
« Reply #180 on: May 27, 2010, 02:19:24 AM »
The dimensions you gave for the iguana....are you talking in feet..meters.....??? They sound really big...My friend has one about 1 and 1/2 ft long that spends a lot of time sitting on a branch...I would be leary to get something that when full grown could have one of us to snack on. The one that got you...was that full grown.. I need a much smaller lizard...maybe an iguana wouldn't be such a good idea. Do they have a problem being alone all day ?? If I can't give it a good home...then I wouldn't have one. I would be interested in something that when full grown would be no longer than 2 ft. Does anything sound like that ?? Thanks so much for the information...cause I was just gonna surprise my son with it...but I need something we can watch grow and something as child proof as possible...am I looking for the wrong house pet ???
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« Reply #181 on: May 27, 2010, 11:26:02 AM »
The dimensions you gave for the iguana....are you talking in feet..meters.....??? They sound really big...My friend has one about 1 and 1/2 ft long that spends a lot of time sitting on a branch...I would be leary to get something that when full grown could have one of us to snack on. The one that got you...was that full grown.. I need a much smaller lizard...maybe an iguana wouldn't be such a good idea. Do they have a problem being alone all day ?? If I can't give it a good home...then I wouldn't have one. I would be interested in something that when full grown would be no longer than 2 ft. Does anything sound like that ?? Thanks so much for the information...cause I was just gonna surprise my son with it...but I need something we can watch grow and something as child proof as possible...am I looking for the wrong house pet ???

those dimensions are in feet and would be a minimum for a single animal. The adults are between 5-7ft long (half is tail) and the lizards are arboreal so need to climb so the tank needs to be significant in size.

1 and 1/2 foot is a juvenile by the age of 3 years it will be matured and significantly larger than this. Good homes are easy to provide for reptiles if the basic needs are met they're fine, with snakes it's typically easier to keep but lizards are just as rewarding and more personable.

ok there are a good number of fantastic species i reccommend to you but i'm going to give you animals up to 4 foot long because that's still a manageable size and a lot of great pets are 3 foot long:
* Leopard Geckos are the perenial favourite they average between 6 and 8 inches in length, very friendly however they are nocturnal and it's not very good practise to keep waking it up for handling as you may imagine.
* Bearded Dragons are a 2ft species from Australia, they are manageable and cheap in captivity they are diurnal so they will be awake when you are.
* Chinese Water Dragons these guys are a little like the iguana but stay at 3ft long so the enclousure is smaller they're diurnal too and i've kept a handfull of these guys for a very long time.
* Savannah Monitor also called Bosc Monitors, these guys are a little bigger typically reaching 4ft in length they can quickly become tame when bought as babies, they're among the smartest of animals out there capable of distinguishing concequences, puzzles and can count upto 6 these are also diurnal.

It depends what you want in a pet, they're cool little animals, they can be handled and they sure do grow, but if you want something to do tricks you may be looking for a dog and the larger monitors can enjoy cuddles-the black throat at work actively hugs first but the key word is large in that sentence.

I get the impression lizards are more what you're chasing than a snake, in many respects they are better pets because they seem to hold intelligence and have very unique personalities

child proofing for reptiles is quite easy i have several snakes capable of killing a human child, i still allow my 7 year old cousin in and my 3 year old sister. The reason is fairly simple, all my tanks have at least one lock on the doors-even for the non dangerous ones (they've handled my large pythons and things as delicate as my chameleon but that's supervised) just to make sure little over eagre hands don't do something by mistake.




lizards and indeed reptiles have no problem being home all day it's a good thing since it allows them some time to chill out and recharge before you all get home and the excitement of handling takes place. They're pretty fond of being let out of the vivarium but they won't be overly bothered and there's no negative effects if they aren't, my chameleon and male water dragon almost never come out and they're fine with that.
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Re: Post your pets?
« Reply #182 on: May 27, 2010, 05:46:14 PM »
those dimensions are in feet and would be a minimum for a single animal. The adults are between 5-7ft long (half is tail) and the lizards are arboreal so need to climb so the tank needs to be significant in size.

1 and 1/2 foot is a juvenile by the age of 3 years it will be matured and significantly larger than this. Good homes are easy to provide for reptiles if the basic needs are met they're fine, with snakes it's typically easier to keep but lizards are just as rewarding and more personable.

ok there are a good number of fantastic species i reccommend to you but i'm going to give you animals up to 4 foot long because that's still a manageable size and a lot of great pets are 3 foot long:
* Leopard Geckos are the perenial favourite they average between 6 and 8 inches in length, very friendly however they are nocturnal and it's not very good practise to keep waking it up for handling as you may imagine.
* Bearded Dragons are a 2ft species from Australia, they are manageable and cheap in captivity they are diurnal so they will be awake when you are.
* Chinese Water Dragons these guys are a little like the iguana but stay at 3ft long so the enclousure is smaller they're diurnal too and i've kept a handfull of these guys for a very long time.
* Savannah Monitor also called Bosc Monitors, these guys are a little bigger typically reaching 4ft in length they can quickly become tame when bought as babies, they're among the smartest of animals out there capable of distinguishing concequences, puzzles and can count upto 6 these are also diurnal.

It depends what you want in a pet, they're cool little animals, they can be handled and they sure do grow, but if you want something to do tricks you may be looking for a dog and the larger monitors can enjoy cuddles-the black throat at work actively hugs first but the key word is large in that sentence.

I get the impression lizards are more what you're chasing than a snake, in many respects they are better pets because they seem to hold intelligence and have very unique personalities

child proofing for reptiles is quite easy i have several snakes capable of killing a human child, i still allow my 7 year old cousin in and my 3 year old sister. The reason is fairly simple, all my tanks have at least one lock on the doors-even for the non dangerous ones (they've handled my large pythons and things as delicate as my chameleon but that's supervised) just to make sure little over eagre hands don't do something by mistake.




lizards and indeed reptiles have no problem being home all day it's a good thing since it allows them some time to chill out and recharge before you all get home and the excitement of handling takes place. They're pretty fond of being let out of the vivarium but they won't be overly bothered and there's no negative effects if they aren't, my chameleon and male water dragon almost never come out and they're fine with that.


The leopard  gecko sounds about right... it will have the chance to sleep most of the day when were gone...and my mom probably wouldn't go within 10 ft of it... :lol:...I need to get reading material...cause if i'm gonna invest in this, I need to do it right. They are small...so could you keep 2 in a enclosure that is correct size ...will they bond or will they see each other as a predator...that's my last question...I'm gonna start reading up on them and looking around...reptiles is something I never thought of as a pet...but for some reason..I have become interested in them...who'd have thunk...your knowledge is so great...and I thank ya for sharing.. :bow:
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« Reply #183 on: May 27, 2010, 07:20:23 PM »

The leopard  gecko sounds about right... it will have the chance to sleep most of the day when were gone...and my mom probably wouldn't go within 10 ft of it... :lol:...I need to get reading material...cause if i'm gonna invest in this, I need to do it right. They are small...so could you keep 2 in a enclosure that is correct size ...will they bond or will they see each other as a predator...that's my last question...I'm gonna start reading up on them and looking around...reptiles is something I never thought of as a pet...but for some reason..I have become interested in them...who'd have thunk...your knowledge is so great...and I thank ya for sharing.. :bow:

My first lizard was a Leopard Gecko when i was 4 years old those are FANTASTIC species. they're fairly cheap to buy and setting them up isn't too hard if you need help i can provide that but there are plenty of caresheets online that can help you out. http://www.leopardgeckocare.net/ this ought to be a start for research. Haha your mum's afraid of them eh? Leopards can be very persuasive with their little faces. They'll need live insects to feed, it's not as bad as it sounds though. They don't bond in the sense of humans because they're solitary in the wild but they can happily be housed together unlike snakes for example. It's very important you get the mix of them right though

multiple males=fighting that will result in either stress, death or injury

1 male + upto 3 females=eggs 1-2 per female-they can be sold for a little bit, but basically pocket money's worth, still it's a nice feeling knowing you brought them into the world.

upto 4 females=no eggs, no fighting.


it's up to you WHAT you decide to go for in terms of the gender divide. Just make sure the vivarium is large enough for all of them and that they all have the ability to hide (even if it's just together). Beyond that they will need heating which that site should clear up, unlike most lizards they don't need UV lighting because they are nocturnal however they need to be able to tell if it's day or night otherwise it will stress them (as you might imagine if you were stuck in an eternal night time). That last bit is just so you know to not cover the tank or put it in a dark place. the top of a book case that isn't by a window would be fine as long as it's hot enough.

i did forget to mention that adult geckos will see babies as food so it's good to have all at about the same size.
they're very interesting pets and when you get some experience the doors open a chance for significant profit depending on what you're working with.

there are some very attractive Leo Gecko morphs on the market such as Hypo, albino, patternless, giants (size rather than colour), snow, snake eyes and my PERSONAL favourite the Enigma:

very strange looking but that's the fun of it.






not a problem i love to share knowledge and i've kept and bred several species including some of the morphs of leopard geckos i listed above...and some were enigmas which i have to say i love.
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Re: Post your pets?
« Reply #184 on: May 27, 2010, 07:38:32 PM »
How precious they are. To begin with a couple of females sound good to me....females and no fighting??? How strange is that.. :lol:.....thanks so much for your help and no telling what this might end up being...but I'll keep ya posted...life is an adventure for sure.
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« Reply #185 on: May 28, 2010, 04:09:15 PM »
How precious they are. To begin with a couple of females sound good to me....females and no fighting??? How strange is that.. :lol:.....thanks so much for your help and no telling what this might end up being...but I'll keep ya posted...life is an adventure for sure.

probably a good choice lol. Yeah they're not territorial in the least so they can usually be housed together if they are all of equal size more or less.

it's no problem keep me posted and i'll give you one piece of advice be a bit carefull with geckos they must never be overly stressed or gripped by the tail, they will split the tail away in order to try and escape, this is true of all lizards. Typically it's not likely to happen unless they get lifted by the tail or someone's is trying to grab them roughly but it's just something to be aware of.

in total they make good pets and a great first reptile. I used to specialise in gecko breeding but have since advanced to large pythons (the money is better and i have a fassinaction with seeing a 20+ft snake i can handle without being attacked).
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« Reply #186 on: May 28, 2010, 05:53:40 PM »
Holy shit that piebald morph looked awesome!
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« Reply #187 on: May 28, 2010, 06:08:01 PM »


 


what a beautiful animal  :O but i cant help feeling sorry that all of them are not in the jungle or their natural environment
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« Reply #188 on: May 29, 2010, 12:46:34 AM »
Holy shit that piebald morph looked awesome!

one of my favourites but worth about £600 which i grant you is only 100 more than my retic.

now imagine those colours on a snake that will reach 20ft....gonna be very nice.

what a beautiful animal  :O but i cant help feeling sorry that all of them are not in the jungle or their natural environment
they are indeed, don't be tooo concerned about them living naturally they get staple diets and no predators everything is provided that they require and all of the more popular reptile species are captive bred so they don't reallly miss what they never had, and things like that gecko could never survive in the wild because of the colours.
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« Reply #189 on: May 29, 2010, 12:50:09 AM »
probably a good choice lol. Yeah they're not territorial in the least so they can usually be housed together if they are all of equal size more or less.

it's no problem keep me posted and i'll give you one piece of advice be a bit carefull with geckos they must never be overly stressed or gripped by the tail, they will split the tail away in order to try and escape, this is true of all lizards. Typically it's not likely to happen unless they get lifted by the tail or someone's is trying to grab them roughly but it's just something to be aware of.

in total they make good pets and a great first reptile. I used to specialise in gecko breeding but have since advanced to large pythons (the money is better and i have a fassinaction with seeing a 20+ft snake i can handle without being attacked).



Have done a lot of reading...like the enigma, leopard and Mack Bell....why would I have to pull the back legs off the cricket ??
Can't I just put them in the cage and let the gecko eat up...they have to do it in the wild. No one here does insects well. Flies in the house freak me out... :lol: If I can get past those live crickets...maybe I'll have a chance. I don't think I even want to know what "gut out" means.
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« Reply #190 on: May 29, 2010, 01:08:02 AM »


Have done a lot of reading...like the enigma, leopard and Mack Bell....why would I have to pull the back legs off the cricket ??
Can't I just put them in the cage and let the gecko eat up...they have to do it in the wild. No one here does insects well. Flies in the house freak me out... :lol: If I can get past those live crickets...maybe I'll have a chance. I don't think I even want to know what "gut out" means.

don't listen tio the plucking idea typically people do it to silence the crickets or to stop them bouncing away but the lizard always gets them in the end i never remove legs since i buy silent crickets and my lizards have always been ok.

The live food is a bit cruel seeming at first or a bit discusting but in the end you accept that those crickets serve a purpose and aren't tortured or cruelly treated and that threough them your pet stays healthy. Crickets life spans aren't particularly long and insects feel no emotion beyond stress so it's not as bad as it seems.

Mack Bell has some nice morphs i particularly like his snow enigma project.
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« Reply #191 on: May 29, 2010, 02:09:55 AM »
don't listen tio the plucking idea typically people do it to silence the crickets or to stop them bouncing away but the lizard always gets them in the end i never remove legs since i buy silent crickets and my lizards have always been ok.

The live food is a bit cruel seeming at first or a bit discusting but in the end you accept that those crickets serve a purpose and aren't tortured or cruelly treated and that threough them your pet stays healthy. Crickets life spans aren't particularly long and insects feel no emotion beyond stress so it's not as bad as it seems.

Mack Bell has some nice morphs i particularly like his snow enigma project.


Read they like to "talk" to one another...better to get 2 habitats or just 1 large enough for the both. Also read that sometimes the can't tell the sex of gecko..I guess to young. We only have a Petsmart here and I will have to order. If I order 2 females...they will know??? don't want no more pet accidents... :lol: :lol:
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« Reply #192 on: May 29, 2010, 03:45:08 PM »

chezequerz, boy what a lot off info. I've a short holiday next week and print this all out tomorrow to read it. Very interesting to read. Plus I love people with a passion and your love for those beauties. :)
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« Reply #193 on: May 29, 2010, 09:15:36 PM »

Read they like to "talk" to one another...better to get 2 habitats or just 1 large enough for the both. Also read that sometimes the can't tell the sex of gecko..I guess to young. We only have a Petsmart here and I will have to order. If I order 2 females...they will know??? don't want no more pet accidents... :lol: :lol:

Crickets do use it to display dominance and sexual viability but i wouldn't say they were social because of it lol. They don't typically require large enclosures anyway but if you want a communal i'd suggest buying that and then buying lizards that you know the gender of. Or if you want to get a few true babies then a few vivariums may be for the best until you know what you're dealing with.

yes lizard babies display no physical signs of sexual dimorphism until they reach a certain age, some people will use a highly risky technique called popping to work out the gender early but i don't believe it should ever be done on lizards since they're significantly easier to stress and more delicate.

if you order two females they should sell two females but they will be at the point where the gender is clear. Of course i don't have petsmart in the UK so i can't vouch for how good they are.

chezequerz, boy what a lot off info. I've a short holiday next week and print this all out tomorrow to read it. Very interesting to read. Plus I love people with a passion and your love for those beauties. :)

haha that's super cool, it's a passion, love, hobby and obsession for me. They aren't for everyone i suppose but it's nice that a few people here enjoy them too.
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« Reply #194 on: May 30, 2010, 02:10:55 PM »

haha that's super cool, it's a passion, love, hobby and obsession for me. They aren't for everyone i suppose but it's nice that a few people here enjoy them too.

I adore these creatures and I love it you show and tell this all to us. We've had a boa years ago and I wanted a second one but my then little girl went berserk and her friends didn't want to enter the house anymore. So what's a mother got to do? The friend who gave her to us and helped me took her back. End off story.
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