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In Defense of GNR & Chinese Democracy
« on: February 05, 2009, 03:12:26 PM »
 I can see clearly that some people are experiencing a sense of  Apathy, or even lethargy for something they have been anticipating for such a long time.

  Whether the Album was good or not it was Always going to be scrutinized meticulously above and beyond anything else...Reviewers,as objective as they are :O .... Still believe and buy into the spin that literally engulfed an Album such as C.D.
 
  When it arrived, and didn't stop Global warming,or cure cancer or in fact Doesn't Change their little lives...It becomes an Instant failure to them. Thus you have the uber
critics with unreasonable expectations about C.D. which
carries a mythic aura with it,and surrounding it.

Personally I think this Album hasn't hit it's peak yet,whether it goes mainstream or simply gathers a cult
following,People were ready and waiting to watch GNRs
fall on their faces,and ready with their verbal blades to slice it up,and mutilate it all because it didn't jive with their expectations.

It's a shame they can't enjoy it, due to some personal vendetta or failed expectation.IMO it honestly is a good
Album and only time will tell the story.

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Re: In Defense of GNR & Chinese Democracy
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2009, 03:25:31 PM »
I can see clearly that some people are experiencing a sense of  Apathy, or even lethargy for something they have been anticipating for such a long time.

  Whether the Album was good or not it was Always going to be scrutinized meticulously above and beyond anything else...Reviewers,as objective as they are :O .... Still believe and buy into the spin that literally engulfed an Album such as C.D.
 
  When it arrived, and didn't stop Global warming,or cure cancer or in fact Doesn't Change their little lives...It becomes an Instant failure to them. Thus you have the uber
critics with unreasonable expectations about C.D. which
carries a mythic aura with it,and surrounding it.

Personally I think this Album hasn't hit it's peak yet,whether it goes mainstream or simply gathers a cult
following,People were ready and waiting to watch GNRs
fall on their faces,and ready with their verbal blades to slice it up,and mutilate it all because it didn't jive with their expectations.

It's a shame they can't enjoy it, due to some personal vendetta or failed expectation.IMO it honestly is a good
Album and only time will tell the story.

w.

What are you rambling about? Most critics are positive to Chinese Democracy. It has a 64/100 score at metacritic.com. Can it be that your assessment of the album is more off the mark than the critics'?

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Re: In Defense of GNR & Chinese Democracy
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2009, 03:38:36 PM »
What are you rambling about? Most critics are positive to Chinese Democracy. It has a 64/100 score at metacritic.com. Can it be that your assessment of the album is more off the mark than the critics'?

Nope, I've gotten numerous negative criticisims of one kind or another in my email,and I have been known to peruse a book, magazine or even a newspaper :O

And that wasn't half a ramble,I'll be sure and give u notice when I'm going all-out, full force rambling out of control.

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Re: In Defense of GNR & Chinese Democracy
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2009, 03:53:38 PM »
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Re: In Defense of GNR & Chinese Democracy
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2009, 03:57:59 PM »
I can see clearly that some people are experiencing a sense of  Apathy, or even lethargy for something they have been anticipating for such a long time.

  Whether the Album was good or not it was Always going to be scrutinized meticulously above and beyond anything else...Reviewers,as objective as they are :O .... Still believe and buy into the spin that literally engulfed an Album such as C.D.
 
  When it arrived, and didn't stop Global warming,or cure cancer or in fact Doesn't Change their little lives...It becomes an Instant failure to them. Thus you have the uber
critics with unreasonable expectations about C.D. which
carries a mythic aura with it,and surrounding it.

Personally I think this Album hasn't hit it's peak yet,whether it goes mainstream or simply gathers a cult
following,People were ready and waiting to watch GNRs
fall on their faces,and ready with their verbal blades to slice it up,and mutilate it all because it didn't jive with their expectations.

It's a shame they can't enjoy it, due to some personal vendetta or failed expectation.IMO it honestly is a good
Album and only time will tell the story.

w.
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Re: In Defense of GNR & Chinese Democracy
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2009, 04:40:46 PM »
What are you rambling about? Most critics are positive to Chinese Democracy. It has a 64/100 score at metacritic.com. Can it be that your assessment of the album is more off the mark than the critics'?

Are you new to the site?  People are constantly calling this album a failure.  Truth is I feel Warchild is dead on, and I personally believe that in time this album will shine as a diamond in the ruff for the NON GnR fans.

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Re: In Defense of GNR & Chinese Democracy
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2009, 04:51:50 PM »
Nope, I've gotten numerous negative criticisims of one kind or another in my email,and I have been known to peruse a book, magazine or even a newspaper :O

But still, despite of all this, you haven't noticed that most critics are positive? Wierd. I understand you have a big emotional need to demonstrate how much you support GNR and how much you are willing to fight those that oppose GNR, but no point in exaggerating the situation, I still know how much of a fanboy you are.

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Re: In Defense of GNR & Chinese Democracy
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2009, 04:54:08 PM »
Are you new to the site?  People are constantly calling this album a failure.  Truth is I feel Warchild is dead on, and I personally believe that in time this album will shine as a diamond in the ruff for the NON GnR fans.

Appreciated,and I dig your S/N.....I am tired of hearing how badly it's doing "on the charts" and how "It's Tanking"
Sometimes timing is everything :slywink:

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Re: In Defense of GNR & Chinese Democracy
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2009, 04:57:46 PM »
Are you new to the site?  People are constantly calling this album a failure.  Truth is I feel Warchild is dead on, and I personally believe that in time this album will shine as a diamond in the ruff for the NON GnR fans.

Yes, some people in here call it a failure, probably to amuse themselves over the predictable resulting reactions from the pscyhophants, or because they are so very dissappointed themselves. But most REVIEWERS -- and that is what "Warchild" talked about -- do NOT consider Chinese Democracy a failure. As I clearly stated, metacritic has collected reviewers' scores and endded up with a 64/100 (of course I feel that 64/100 is too low, but is it far from a "failure"). Clearly, "Warchild" paints a dark picture so he gets yet another opportunity to stand up as the "great defender" of GNR yet again, even when no such battle is necessary.

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Re: In Defense of GNR & Chinese Democracy
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2009, 04:59:26 PM »
Appreciated,and I dig your S/N.....I am tired of hearing how badly it's doing "on the charts" and how "It's Tanking"
Sometimes timing is everything :slywink:

So you WERE rambling the, because in your original posts you did talk about reviewers and crtitics, now you appearantly talk about the nay-sayers in this forum.

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Re: In Defense of GNR & Chinese Democracy
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2009, 05:21:40 PM »
But still, despite of all this, you haven't noticed that most critics are positive? Wierd. I understand you have a big emotional need to demonstrate how much you support GNR and how much you are willing to fight those that oppose GNR, but no point in exaggerating the situation, I still know how much of a fanboy you are.


 "Wierd"??

And I can clearly see that you are trying to play pseudo-intellectual Boy,You haven't convinced me and I doubt you will. No exaggeration is needed,and I owe you no explanation for my support of GNRs. It's my life and my choice, if per chance u don't like it--that's just tough shit.
Okay Kid? :retard:


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Re: In Defense of GNR & Chinese Democracy
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2009, 05:42:40 PM »
"Wierd"??

And I can clearly see that you are trying to play pseudo-intellectual Boy,You haven't convinced me and I doubt you will. No exaggeration is needed,and I owe you no explanation for my support of GNRs. It's my life and my choice, if per chance u don't like it--that's just tough shit.
Okay Kid? :retard:

This is completely irrelevant to what I wrote.  I didn't ask you to explain why you support GNR, I didn't try to prove that I am "pseudo-intellectual and neither did I ask you to justify your "life and choice". All I did was to point out that your first post was way off and I speculated on the psychological reasons behind this obvious need of yours to design situations for you to prove your worth as a GNR fan.

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Re: In Defense of GNR & Chinese Democracy
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2009, 06:29:06 PM »
This is completely irrelevant to what I wrote.  I didn't ask you to explain why you support GNR, I didn't try to prove that I am "pseudo-intellectual and neither did I ask you to justify your "life and choice". All I did was to point out that your first post was way off and I speculated on the psychological reasons behind this obvious need of yours to design situations for you to prove your worth as a GNR fan.

OH Well that makes things all better, you're a "wanna be Psychologist" Far be it from me to "design situations"...I
haven't got the time. Interesting word combination tho..

 Say, I have an Idea-why don't you analyze yourself first instead of playing "Amateur Psychologist" with other people ?? Do you dare to look inside your own mind,to see what you might find? Scary thought?

Look kid, I've been in therapy,been Psychoanalyzed way before u were born,so take your little game to someone that believes your shit,OK?

The choices I make ie: To Support GNRs is ultimately mine,not yours so go peddle your snake oil somewhere else, I won't back down,back off,or shut up-got that clear now? Good. It's half past daylight and I need a nap,If u have any more questions,comments,or Lame ass statements-save em' for later.

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Re: In Defense of GNR & Chinese Democracy
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2009, 06:39:10 PM »
Yes, some people in here call it a failure, probably to amuse themselves over the predictable resulting reactions from the pscyhophants, or because they are so very dissappointed themselves. But most REVIEWERS -- and that is what "Warchild" talked about -- do NOT consider Chinese Democracy a failure. As I clearly stated, metacritic has collected reviewers' scores and endded up with a 64/100 (of course I feel that 64/100 is too low, but is it far from a "failure"). Clearly, "Warchild" paints a dark picture so he gets yet another opportunity to stand up as the "great defender" of GNR yet again, even when no such battle is necessary.

I don't consider 64/100 an acceptable number, It's far too low--But it just went Platinum in the USA,and that is a good omen. If u will notice my sig says LaFamilia,and we
all support GNRs ...I'm not the only one.

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Re: In Defense of GNR & Chinese Democracy
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2009, 06:42:43 PM »
OH Well that makes things all better, you're a "wanna be Psychologist" Far be it from me to "design situations"...I
haven't got the time. Interesting word combination tho..

 Say, I have an Idea-why don't you analyze yourself first instead of playing "Amateur Psychologist" with other people ?? Do you dare to look inside your own mind,to see what you might find? Scary thought?

Look kid, I've been in therapy,been Psychoanalyzed way before u were born,so take your little game to someone that believes your shit,OK?

The choices I make ie: To Support GNRs is ultimately mine,not yours so go peddle your snake oil somewhere else, I won't back down,back off,or shut up-got that clear now? Good. It's half past daylight and I need a nap,If u have any more questions,comments,or Lame ass statements-save em' for later.

Fascinating.