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Re: Football
« Reply #2085 on: May 18, 2012, 12:35:42 AM »
As opposed to a manager who actively failed to win with a much stronger club?

You talking about AVB?

It wasn't a straight choice between the two, they could have gone for anyone.

Most Liverpool fans are totally delusional, they thought King Kenny was going to be the saviour and they probably thought Mourinho was going to apply for the job. I don't think Martinez is going to excite them.
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« Reply #2086 on: May 18, 2012, 06:13:04 AM »
You talking about AVB?

It wasn't a straight choice between the two, they could have gone for anyone.

Most Liverpool fans are totally delusional, they thought King Kenny was going to be the saviour and they probably thought Mourinho was going to apply for the job. I don't think Martinez is going to excite them.

yeah with a club like Chelsea he couldn't get results that's a strong club who expect big things whereas liverpool are a medium strength club...who expect big things. I'm not saying they're shit or anything but they're not at that position in the league by accident. Dalglish made many mistakes but he got them their first piece of silverware in 7 years (even if it was a league cup) and into the FA cup final. Given 2 or 3 more seasons i think the results may have been more favourable for them. AVB failed across the board really, poor media handling, poor tactical choices and very poor handling of the dressing room the only thing he showed any consistently good capability in was signing good new players. I'm aware they could have gone for anyone but i think they have to be realistic, who the fuck would sign for a club as manager who have shown virtually no patience or regard for the managers contributions unless they have no job or their job is not as worthwhile.

Realistically that leaves a manager of a smaller team or someone who's out of a job. I suppose they could go for virtually anyone by that logic but certainly the list of those who are realistic and might be interested are basically those two names at this point.

but yeah i know several Liverpool fans who have stated it'll be Mourinho, that they'll win the title this season coming and maybe the treble at that. I read a statement about football clubs once compared to school kids

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If Barclays Premier League would have been a class-room, then:

Arsenal is a boy who works hard through out the year but fails to succeed.

Manchester City is a spoilt child who purchases all the expensive books but is never interested in reading them.

Liverpool is a child who is very much proud of the academic achievements of his grand father.

Manchester United is a boy who just performs in the final exams and tops the class.

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Chelsea is a boy who fails and puts the blame of failure on his teachers and then his family finds a new teacher for him every year.

(I'd state that it seems we've read those books this season though)

Liverpool seem to think they're in the top 2 teams in England and they are if we're talking global popularity but right now they're really only playing at about the same level as Everton (a top half of the middle of the table team), which i think they've yet to realise.
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Re: Football
« Reply #2087 on: May 18, 2012, 11:11:43 AM »
Chelsea were in fifth place when AVB was fired. And they finished in sixth...

I really wish it was AVB - not so sure about Martinez. I think he is good, but I don't know if he is what is needed at Liverpool. And you can say Liverpool expect too much and are a mid table team, but lets not forget the recent massive success in the Champions League and consistent top four finishes. It has only been since the last bit of the Rafa days that the club started sliding. Get the right manager now, and that can be reversed.
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« Reply #2088 on: May 18, 2012, 01:10:58 PM »
l'pool are looking at up to 12 managers, rogers has already turned them down.
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« Reply #2089 on: May 18, 2012, 02:51:46 PM »
What About Didier Deschamps For The Liverpool Job..  It Has Been Rumoured That They Where Interested In Him Before Hodgson And Dalglish.
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« Reply #2090 on: May 18, 2012, 09:17:21 PM »
Chelsea were in fifth place when AVB was fired. And they finished in sixth...

I really wish it was AVB - not so sure about Martinez. I think he is good, but I don't know if he is what is needed at Liverpool. And you can say Liverpool expect too much and are a mid table team, but lets not forget the recent massive success in the Champions League and consistent top four finishes. It has only been since the last bit of the Rafa days that the club started sliding. Get the right manager now, and that can be reversed.

yes but they've been significantly better since RDM came in if he'd been there the whole season they'd have likely wound up in the top 4 at least. AVB barely kept them in line for the FA Cup and almost knocked them out of the Champions league too equally you could never be sure whether they would win or lose a match they became fairly inconsistent. Well that's a good point you've made there ideally they'd probably want someone who has experience building a team up maybe Mark Hughes? Not that they'd get him from QPR any time soon.  I think Martinez has a huge future in management but whether that is at Liverpool I don't know.
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« Reply #2091 on: May 19, 2012, 12:01:39 AM »
Martin O'Neill would be the man for me.

Full of passion, great motivator, doesn't need huge sums of money, would probably be approved by the fan.
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« Reply #2092 on: May 19, 2012, 10:36:50 PM »
What a final, how they won that I'll never know. Drogba was blessed.

Well done Chelsea, great to stuff Spurs. 
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« Reply #2093 on: May 19, 2012, 10:38:08 PM »
Leinster and Chelski in the same day. Seriously, fuck this shit.
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« Reply #2094 on: May 19, 2012, 11:17:03 PM »
Well Done Chelsea ( glad they won ) Nice To See A English Club Win .
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« Reply #2095 on: May 20, 2012, 12:56:35 AM »
I can't stop laughing at Spurs. They really threw it away. Who knows what effect missing out on the Champions League is going to have on their stars players. Modric must be kicking himself he didn't get that transfer last summer.

RDM must surely get the job full time now. I'm not sure if he should take it, it's only downhill for him from
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« Reply #2096 on: May 20, 2012, 01:30:00 AM »
A great victory for Chelsea. Roll on next season.
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« Reply #2097 on: May 20, 2012, 02:09:10 AM »
I bloody knew Chelski would win it, just because of the way they got there. Was quite funny watching it in the pub with my German mate - he took some serious stick :yao:
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« Reply #2098 on: May 20, 2012, 02:37:34 AM »
If you were a Bayern fan you would be pretty pissed. They should have won it in the first half alone.

Appartenly Robben refused to take a penalty in the shoot out the manger said. That's why Neuer took one.
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« Reply #2099 on: May 20, 2012, 11:32:07 AM »
If you were a Bayern fan you would be pretty pissed. They should have won it in the first half alone.

Appartenly Robben refused to take a penalty in the shoot out the manger said. That's why Neuer took one.
arent german keepers known quite well for taking penalties anyway?

i remember a keeper call 'butt' who played for bayer leverkusen who scored penalties and free kicks, so Neuer taking that penalty was no real surpise to me.

But chelsea winning the CL..... :fpalm:
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