Formula 1

[Bluelion]

That race was pretty much conclusive proof that F1 is at it's most fun when conditions are hazardous. The first half of the race was great, but when the track dried out it became much less interesting.

[rds.06]

I think they should water the track before every race.

Sepang is expected to be a wet race also.

[Trixi]

I think they should water the track before every race.

Sepang is expected to be a wet race also.

  That's a great idea.

[Johan!]

Only wet quali in Sepang, but a very cool wet race in Shanghai! 

Schumi is not doing to great up until now. I did found new respect for Jenson though! 

[rds.06]

Only wet quali in Sepang, but a very cool wet race in Shanghai! 

Schumi is not doing to great up until now. I did found new respect for Jenson though! 

I thought China was going to be Schumi's big break race but he was way off the pace. I think Ross will turn it around for him, they will throw everything at it to get the car the way he wants it. He was used to having the car built around him at Ferrai.

Jenson has gone up in my standings big time, he has won half the races so far and looks every inch the world champion. Hamilton looks great cutting through the field but Button doesnt need to do that because he has made all the right decisions. Looking forward to a dull Spanish GP as usual, but if it is dry it will be interesting to see if all the updates the teams usually bring to Spain has affected the top teams. 

[Johan!]

After Kimi left and seeing the first races of the season, I gladly support Jenson now! 

[fan]

I have to admit I don't watch the races even though Michael Schumacher is like my second favourite athlete of all time.

The never-ending changes really ruined the experience for me. I used to watch every race of the season. It might also has something to do with the fact my champion hasn't been any good, even on a WET track. 


Something's missing. And I don't mean Schumacher winning but in Formula 1 in general. When they started doing all those adjustements about the engine, tyres, gasoline, qualification, points system it all went downhill.

Sometimes it seems as if they wanted to make Formula 1 more interesting but in my eyes they made it boring as fuck.

[rds.06]

Well done Schumi, car doesnt have the pace but keeping Button behind him was very well done, Hamilton's crash at the end was the icing on the cake, he also beat Rosberg for the first time, nice to see him back 

[RoboAxl]

my buddy was at this one. Big Schumacher fan, I can't wait for him to tell me all about it

[Trixi]

Well done Schumi, car doesnt have the pace but keeping Button behind him was very well done, Hamilton's crash at the end was the icing on the cake, he also beat Rosberg for the first time, nice to see him back 

Indeed. I actually laughed a little, I'm just so evil.

[Nirvana]

Senna was great and im taking nothing away from him but its a bit like Kurt Cobain, death has enhanced his rep. I perfer to deal in facts and figures and that's why I favour Schumi.

Of course this has nothing to do with the fact that I am currently in the process of stalking Schumi around Melbourne  . I am determined to track him down and will be walking around the track tonight to see who I can spot. He is currently in Melbourne and I have many spies on the look out  .   

Senna was way better than Michael, only his luck gave him 7 trophies, before the incident Senna owned Michael.Look at the stats if you don't believe me.

[Nirvana]

Season Driver Team Engine Tyres Poles Wins Podiums Fastest Laps Points Clinched Pt. Margin
1950  Nino Farina  Alfa Romeo Alfa Romeo P 2 3 3 3 30 Race 7 of 7 3
1951  Juan Manuel Fangio  Alfa Romeo Alfa Romeo P 4 3 5 5 31 Race 8 of 8 6
1952 1  Alberto Ascari  Ferrari Ferrari F
P
 5 6 6 6 36 Race 6 of 8 12
1953 1  Alberto Ascari  Ferrari Ferrari P 6 5 5 4 34.5 Race 8 of 9 6.5
1954  Juan Manuel Fangio  Maserati
 Mercedes2 Maserati
Mercedes P
C
 5 6 7 3 42 Race 7 of 9 16.86
1955  Juan Manuel Fangio  Mercedes Mercedes C 3 4 5 3 40 Race 6 of 7 16.5
1956  Juan Manuel Fangio  Ferrari Ferrari E 6 3 5 4 30 Race 8 of 8 3
1957  Juan Manuel Fangio  Maserati Maserati P 4 4 6 2 40 Race 6 of 8 15
1958  Mike Hawthorn  Ferrari Ferrari E 4 1 7 5 42 Race 11 of 11 1
1959  Jack Brabham  Cooper* Climax D 1 2 5 1 31 Race 9 of 9 4
1960  Jack Brabham  Cooper* Climax D 3 5 5 3 43 Race 8 of 10 9
1961  Phil Hill  Ferrari* Ferrari D 5 2 6 2 34 Race 7 of 8 1
1962  Graham Hill  BRM* BRM D 1 4 6 3 42 Race 9 of 9 12
1963  Jim Clark  Lotus* Climax D 7 7 9 6 54 Race 7 of 10 21
1964  John Surtees  Ferrari* Ferrari D 2 2 6 2 40 Race 10 of 10 1
1965  Jim Clark  Lotus* Climax D 6 6 6 6 54 Race 7 of 10 14
1966  Jack Brabham  Brabham* Repco G 3 4 5 1 42 Race 7 of 9 14
1967  Denny Hulme  Brabham* Repco G 0 2 8 2 51 Race 11 of 11 5
1968  Graham Hill  Lotus* Ford F 2 3 6 0 48 Race 12 of 12 12
1969  Jackie Stewart  Matra* Ford D 2 6 7 5 63 Race 8 of 11 26
1970  Jochen Rindt  Lotus* Ford F 3 5 5 1 45 Race 123 of 13 5
1971  Jackie Stewart  Tyrrell* Ford G 6 6 7 3 62 Race 8 of 11 29
1972  Emerson Fittipaldi  Lotus* Ford F 3 5 8 0 61 Race 10 of 12 16
1973  Jackie Stewart  Tyrrell Ford G 3 5 8 1 71 Race 13 of 15 16
1974  Emerson Fittipaldi  McLaren* Ford G 2 3 7 0 55 Race 15 of 15 3
1975  Niki Lauda  Ferrari* Ferrari G 9 5 8 2 64.5 Race 13 of 14 19.5
1976  James Hunt  McLaren Ford G 8 6 8 2 69 Race 16 of 16 1
1977  Niki Lauda  Ferrari* Ferrari G 2 3 10 3 72 Race 15 of 17 17
1978  Mario Andretti  Lotus* Ford G 8 6 7 3 64 Race 14 of 16 13
1979  Jody Scheckter  Ferrari* Ferrari M 1 3 6 0 51 Race 13 of 15 4
1980  Alan Jones  Williams* Ford G 3 5 10 5 67 Race 13 of 14 13
1981  Nelson Piquet  Brabham Ford M 4 3 7 1 50 Race 15 of 15 1
1982  Keke Rosberg  Williams Ford G 1 1 6 0 44 Race 16 of 16 5
1983  Nelson Piquet  Brabham BMW M 1 3 8 4 59 Race 15 of 15 2
1984  Niki Lauda  McLaren* TAG M 0 5 9 5 72 Race 16 of 16 0.5
1985  Alain Prost  McLaren* TAG G 2 5 11 5 73 Race 14 of 16 20
1986  Alain Prost  McLaren TAG G 1 4 11 2 72 Race 16 of 16 2
1987  Nelson Piquet  Williams* Honda G 4 3 11 4 73 Race 15 of 16 12
1988  Ayrton Senna  McLaren* Honda G 13 8 11 3 90 Race 15 of 16 3
1989  Alain Prost  McLaren* Honda G 2 4 11 5 76 Race 15 of 16 16
1990  Ayrton Senna  McLaren* Honda G 10 6 11 2 78 Race 15 of 16 7
1991  Ayrton Senna  McLaren* Honda G 8 7 12 2 96 Race 15 of 16 24
1992  Nigel Mansell  Williams* Renault G 14 9 12 8 108 Race 11 of 16 52
1993  Alain Prost  Williams* Renault G 13 7 12 6 99 Race 14 of 16 26
1994  Michael Schumacher  Benetton Ford G 6 8 10 8 92 Race 16 of 16 1
1995  Michael Schumacher  Benetton* Renault G 4 9 11 8 102 Race 15 of 17 33
1996  Damon Hill  Williams* Renault G 9 8 10 5 97 Race 16 of 16 19
1997  Jacques Villeneuve  Williams* Renault G 10 7 8 3 81 Race 17 of 17 39 4
1998  Mika Häkkinen  McLaren* Mercedes B 9 8 11 6 100 Race 16 of 16 14
1999  Mika Häkkinen  McLaren Mercedes B 11 5 10 6 76 Race 16 of 16 2
2000  Michael Schumacher  Ferrari* Ferrari B 9 9 12 2 108 Race 16 of 17 19
2001  Michael Schumacher  Ferrari* Ferrari B 11 9 14 3 123 Race 13 of 17 58
2002  Michael Schumacher  Ferrari* Ferrari B 7 11 17 7 144 Race 11 of 17 67
2003  Michael Schumacher  Ferrari* Ferrari B 5 6 8 5 93 Race 16 of 16 2
2004  Michael Schumacher  Ferrari* Ferrari B 8 13 15 10 148 Race 14 of 18 34
2005  Fernando Alonso  Renault* Renault M 6 7 15 2 133 Race 17 of 19 21
2006  Fernando Alonso  Renault* Renault M 6 7 14 5 134 Race 18 of 18 13
2007  Kimi Räikkönen  Ferrari* Ferrari B 3 6 12 6 110 Race 17 of 17 1
2008  Lewis Hamilton  McLaren Mercedes B 7 5 10 1 98 Race 18 of 18 1
2009  Jenson Button  Brawn* Mercedes B 4 6 9 2 95 Race 16 of 17 11

[rds.06]

Senna was way better than Michael, only his luck gave him 7 trophies, before the incident Senna owned Michael.Look at the stats if you don't believe me.

I'm sorry but you cannot argue against Schumi when it comes to stats, its the one thing that man has on his side.

Follow the below link and you will find all the stats you need.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_driver_records
 

[Nirvana]

I'm sorry but you cannot argue against Schumi when it comes to stats, its the one thing that man has on his side.

Follow the below link and you will find all the stats you need.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Formula_One_driver_records
 

That is true, but I want to show you that his first trophie was in '94 when Senna died, if he didn't die I think michael wouldn't be a legent as he is now.

[fan]

Senna was way better than Michael, only his luck gave him 7 trophies, before the incident Senna owned Michael.Look at the stats if you don't believe me.

 

That's nonsense at it's highest peak.


Michael Schumacher finished his second season in Formula 1 in 3rd place, it was 1992. Ayrton Senna, at the time probably the best driver in the world, finished 4th.

In 1993, Senna was 2nd and Schumacher 4th. Not bad at all for a young driver. He wasn't exactly owned, I'd say it was a decent fight.


In 1994, Senna died in the third race of the season. May I remind you that Senna retired from both previous races and Schumacher won both. Michael went on to win 4 races in a row and become a champion.



Comparison:
Senna won twice in his second season in Formula 1.
Schumacher won once in his second season in Formula 1.
They both finished within points in their second race of their life.

By the time Michael Schumacher was 34 (Senna died at 34) he had more win, more championships, more points.
Schumacher won more races in one season, more points in one season.
Schumacher's got better percentage of wins. Schumager's got more podiums.
Schumacher's got more consecutive wins too...
He also owns record for wins on the same grand prix. He owned some even at the age 34. (before the "If Senna hadn't died, things would be different" argument starts)


When Michael Schumacher was already in the game, Senna didn't win a championship. He didn't exactly own anyone at that point, let alone Schumacher.


Before his retirement Schumacher even improved Senna's pole position record, which seemed unreachable a few years before.
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You still wanna talk about stats? Don't make me laugh.


It's funny how people grow in the eyes of fans when they die. Nobody considers Alain Prost the best, even though he had better results than Senna. Funny, the one who dies is always "better" than the one who lives through it.