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Do You Hate This!!
« on: June 02, 2008, 12:44:31 AM »
On this other topic, this guy was saying that the "new" sound nirvana had killed off guns n' roses. if Gn'R would have release and ablum of original material, right after UYI, there wouldnt be a nirvana.. nobody would care.. Gn'R where the only band since the beatles to sell 1 million copies of an album in a single week.. they sold out wembly staidium faster than any other band.. ( mind you, that list includes, elton john, paul mccartney, rod stewart, etc..) not my favorite artist (beside elton john) but still in the music world they were giants.. you can take any nirvana album and put it up to just Use Your Illusions II and there is no comparing.. even if it was nevermind.. Gn'R are musically smarter, better, and more complex.. Guns N' Roses is the best band since the beatles.. they have done things that not even led zeppelin or the rolling stones have never done.. that right there is enough said..  sry just needed to get that of my chest..
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2008, 07:17:07 PM »
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Re: Do You Hate This!!
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2008, 09:30:45 PM »
On this other topic, this guy was saying that the "new" sound nirvana had killed off guns n' roses. if Gn'R would have release and ablum of original material, right after UYI, there wouldnt be a nirvana.. nobody would care.. Gn'R where the only band since the beatles to sell 1 million copies of an album in a single week.. they sold out wembly staidium faster than any other band.. ( mind you, that list includes, elton john, paul mccartney, rod stewart, etc..) not my favorite artist (beside elton john) but still in the music world they were giants.. you can take any nirvana album and put it up to just Use Your Illusions II and there is no comparing.. even if it was nevermind.. Gn'R are musically smarter, better, and more complex.. Guns N' Roses is the best band since the beatles.. they have done things that not even led zeppelin or the rolling stones have never done.. that right there is enough said..  sry just needed to get that of my chest..


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Re: Do You Hate This!!
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2008, 02:10:14 PM »
unplugged in new york is one of my favorite albums ever. you cant really compare UYI and nevermind either. 2 different genres. like comparing apples and oranges
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2008, 05:21:44 PM »
unplugged in new york is one of my favorite albums ever. you cant really compare UYI and nevermind either. 2 different genres. like comparing apples and oranges

thank you finally someone who sees it my way you can't compare them they're both great at there own individual style
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Re: Do You Hate This!!
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2008, 08:24:25 PM »
 No matter how amazing guns n roses are, they will never have the same angst that nirvana had!!!

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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2008, 08:30:30 PM »
No matter how amazing guns n roses are, they will never have the same angst that nirvana had!!!

yeah but you could say that about any grunge rock band take bush for example or pearl jam but guns even though they aren't as hard are still as good, not better but as good
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Re: Do You Hate This!!
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2008, 06:49:44 PM »
I think you're missing a big point.  not sure if you were old enough to remember the times in '91-'92, but when gnr came along in the late-80's, their attitude killed hair metal & the hairspray scene, (Poison, etc.)

when guns became a mockery of themselves (limos, leer jets, toga parties, & ridiculous tour demands), the balance shifted, and they soon were KILLED OFF, by the nirvana scene, which was just as hungry as the GNR/Appetite era.  It went full-circle.

SO, one can say that Nirvana's uprise was inevitable, and there was no way Guns could have avoided their own downfall.  The band had began falling apart while recording UYI.  It wasn't about Nirvana either, it was the angst of the generation.  Nirvana were merely the perfect fit for the job.

As for Nirvana, here's an interesting theory of mine, that many will agree to.  Had Cobain not killed himself, it's likely Nirvana would have also mellowed out, and eventually sold out JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.  Look no further than Dave Grohl.

(I'm NOT taking a stab at Grohl, I respect him immensely as an artist, but we're speaking facts here).
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Re: Do You Hate This!!
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2008, 05:18:35 AM »
ok i guess the fact the guns n' roses sold 1.6 million copies of use your illusion 1/2 in a week, and were the first band to do that since the beatles,(as stated in slash's book and on the web)  means their sound was killed off. RIGHT!! nirvana could never pull that off..   and remember nirvana's nevermind was release the same year(actually within days of each other) and didnt do anywhere near as good.. or didnt sound anywhere near as good.. i like musical diversity not musical stupidity..
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Re: Do You Hate This!!
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2008, 07:41:58 PM »
well i agree with you they are better than Nirvanna and that there would be not any at all but surely alot less nirvanna if G'n'R would have released an album after UYI's. which would be damn alright in my book. Fuck Nirvanna. even Nirvanna hated Nirvanna. Thats why kurt cobain killed himself. Thats how much he hated his own band cuase they suck! any who, Guns 'n' Roses are one of the best ever but i don't think that they're the best thing since the beatles. G'n'R are like my favorite band after KISS. But still there are many more greats that have come and gone from the beatles to G'n'R

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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2008, 02:48:30 AM »
I'm actually old enough to remember the whole nirvana/guns n roses dynamic, and let me tell you, people who used to be guns fans turned on them pretty quick. After a while people denied ever liking guns n roses, they would get laughed at. Nirvana represented the new cool thing for a new generation, and guns n roses were everything that this new movement hated. Now that that has passed people are interested in guns again.

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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2008, 04:11:54 AM »
true guns fans never turned there back.. and you are wrong.. had guns kept going, nirvana and the revolution would have died off.. if guns kept releasing new material, they would have never lost momentum..
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Re: Do You Hate This!!
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2008, 08:32:41 PM »
thats why they had to break up. no band can keep going at such a level as they were constantly.

its the natural way of things. same as the beatles and led zeppelin - something had to give eventually. bands like the rolling stones have kept going through better and worse times and are inconsistent.

the short run they gave was amazing enough to set up a legacy of "what ifs" that will keep the band legendary forever.

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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2008, 09:57:21 PM »
yeah there was no way they coulda kept it up, on average since live like a scuicide they released an album a year and sometimes there were a years break but because the released t UYI's they kept an average of an album a year and they could never of kept that up it's just too much work for one band
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Re: Do You Hate This!!
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2008, 07:52:06 PM »
I top my hat to  what you just said! I just wished that I  was old enough when they first came out to have seen them in concert! I was only 8 when Welcome to the Jungle came out!! But maybe one day If Democracy  ever comes out and Axl tours that i could see him know but it won't be the same!
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