November rain versions

[ErEr]

Just reading some things on HTGTH and found this:

" Re: Unreleased "Pre-Appetite" Songs?
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2007, 09:26:33 PM »  
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Was the 18 minute composition of November Rain ever recorded?"

Is there an 18 minutes recorded composition??

Does anybody know how many different recordings are out there?
I know of the piano version, accoustic, piano PRE UYI and the 5 Edits.
Then we have the babie cover, the tribute cover and the mexican guitar cover.

Anybody know other versions?

[Gez]

It wouldn't surprise me if the new band had recorded it too...

[Limulus]

the ~18min NR version was only a Jam when figuring out the final song structure, kinda like when you practise with a band you play 1-2 parts over and over so the other musicians can learn and add their part/thoughts to it.
i remember reading or watching an interview (slash?) that "the song never was that long" so i highly doubt they recorded it. then again what do we know whats all in the gnr vaults......must be thousands and thousands of unsurfaced audio and video.

[seely]

Slash has said before, in both interviews and his book, that they did a demo of the song which was 18 or so minutes long, and they simply cut it down big-tme for the UYI version they released

[Limulus]

Slash has said before, in both interviews and his book, that they did a demo of the song which was 18 or so minutes long, and they simply cut it down big-tme for the UYI version they released

proof please?
According to the book "Reckless Road" there were 27 songs recorded at Sound City Studios in 1986. On page 278 it states all 27 songs:

10. November Rain (acoustic)
11. November Rain (piano)

those 2 we have on circulating unofficial media for years, acoustic ~5min / piano ~10min.
here is what Slash says about November Rain in one of the 1992-1993 MTV weekends:

[Slash_about_November_Rain__VCD_.mpg] (9054 KB)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/4szfqf

"....when it first surfaced.....it was way before Appetite for Destruction came out....we've been digging around with it for years...it used to be 25min long...........and when we finally decided to record it and we had an arrangement..."

[RickRoses]

It wouldn't surprise me if the new band had recorded it too...

they did

[eye2eye]

According to Classic Rock interview with Slash : "The thing with November Rain wast that back then it was, like, this 20-minute epic that just went on forever. We were never able to edit it down until we did it for Use Your Illusion albums"

[Limulus]

weird words from Slash since they did a ~5min (acoustic) and a ~10min (piano) version in 1986 allready on studio demo

[benny112980]

Are any of these alternate versions available to download?

[Limulus]

According to Classic Rock interview with Slash : "The thing with November Rain wast that back then it was, like, this 20-minute epic that just went on forever. We were never able to edit it down until we did it for Use Your Illusion albums"

Slash's book/page 151:

"....at Sound City Studios (1986)......we worked on demos of "November Rain", which was about 18 minutes long in its original version, so needless to say we really needed to sit down and focus on arranging it."

and demowise we fans have "November Rain (acoustic+vocals)", ~5min, demo taken from ".44 Caliber Horticulture Vol. 2" here:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/7ajccc  [09 - November Rain I_vol2.mp3 - 192kbps]

and

"November Rain (piano+vocals)", ~10min, demo taken from ".44 Caliber Horticulture Vol. 2" here:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/wrvvyi  [10 - November Rain II_vol2.mp3 - 192kbps]

(Notes:
taken from ".44 Caliber Horticulture Vol. 2" silver boot CDs because that songlist kinda fits exactly the song order of the 1st half of the Sound City demo list given by Marc Canter in his "Reckless Road" book/page 278. so most likely this bootleg (and others) is(are) some incomplete lower quality copy of those Sound City demos 1986)

so this would back up my 1st reply in this topic:

"the ~18min NR version was [edit: "probably"] only a Jam when figuring out the final song structure, kinda like when you practise with a band you play 1-2 parts over and over so the other musicians can learn and add their part/thoughts to it [edit: "probably on some uncirculating rehearsal/no studio tapes only"]
i remember reading or watching an interview (slash?) that "the song never was that long" so i highly doubt they recorded it. then again what do we know whats all in the gnr vaults......must be thousands and thousands of unsurfaced audio and video."

edit January 31st 2008:
re-uploaded audio/video-files

[ErEr]

We should buy the GNR vault together with all the rest of the fans..
1000 years of pleasure over there.

Axl, please share.

[Faxl]

We should buy the GNR vault together with all the rest of the fans..
1000 years of pleasure over there.

Axl, please share.

Put it all on one CD as 'Chinese Democracy IV'.

[GNRlove]

i have an early version that is 9 and a half minutes, with Axl singing and playing the piano, and some dude playing tamborine in background. i don't know if this is the same as the 10-minute piano version, but one lyric is a little differnt(from uyi1), one part is repeated, a whole new section is added, and the "don't ya think that ya need somebody" part is left out. apparently this album thing(November Rain is last track) is called "Sessions", cause when i put it in iTunes it told me it was called Sessions. it also has 3 versions of Jumpin' Jack Flash, 2 versions of Mama Kin, 2 v. of Heartbreak Hotel(which is sped up ), a v. of You're crazy (electric), a slower (bleh ) v. of Jungle(also one part is repeated), an instrumental v. of Ain't Goin' Down; Reckless Life, Shadow of Your Love, Move to the City, and a funny little 30-second inbetween songs thingie .