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« Reply #45 on: July 07, 2006, 03:05:32 PM »
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So are you saying the purpose of these forums is to argue buddy?  There's nothing wrong with voicing and opinion, so I'll post in this thread as much as I want.

Like I said, he ain't got shit on Yngwie.  What he's doing has been done, and he isn't doing it much better than the people who have already been doing it.  He'll never release a "Far Beyond the Sun" or play in a band such as Alcatrazz.  Long story short, he won't go far, not nearly as far as Yngwie.


Buddy? Don't flatter yourself... :lol:

An opinion consists of argumentation, some generic reply, like that first one, hasn't got one iota to do with voicing an opinion. But go ahead position yourself as just another attention whore as much as you want...

Furthermore, these files expired ages ago, I really doubt you even know what were talking about. Apart from this, the guy is just starting out in his career and the things he has done uptill now look very promising. From a technical point of view he pisses over Yngiwe (who I greatly respect as well). And as far as songwriting goes he already has a great album under his belt. Great enough for many fans of the genre to talk highly about him.

In short nothing to support: "He ain't got shit on Yngwie"

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« Reply #46 on: July 07, 2006, 03:31:55 PM »
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Buddy? Don't flatter yourself... :lol:

An opinion consists of argumentation, some generic reply, like that first one, hasn't got one iota to do with voicing an opinion. But go ahead position yourself as just another attention whore as much as you want...

Furthermore, these files expired ages ago, I really doubt you even know what were talking about. Apart from this, the guy is just starting out in his career and the things he has done uptill now look very promising. From a technical point of view he pisses over Yngiwe (who I greatly respect as well). And as far as songwriting goes he already has a great album under his belt. Great enough for many fans of the genre to talk highly about him.

In short nothing to support: "He ain't got shit on Yngwie"

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Hah, my first response was an opinion.  My opinion was "he ain't got shit on Yngwie".

Yeah, files did expired but I still checked him out.  He won't go very far.  LOTS of people have talent, does it mean they all make it?  Nope.  I'm not really trying to support shit, there's nothing that I can show you that'll get your head out of this Matt Mill's ass.

And I'm the attention whore?  Look at yourself buddy, you're the biggest asshole I've seen on here, your replies are ridiculous.  Relax and stop attacking people.  Not everyone is gonna agree with what you say or like.  I personally think neo-classical is crap, with a fan base full of ignorant pricks like yourself.  You gonna snap again and reply with some stupid ass fancy pants repsonse to that OPINION?

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« Reply #47 on: July 07, 2006, 04:16:11 PM »
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If somebody linked to a vid of Paganini back from the dead playing Violin, everyone would jizz all over it but once similar stuff is played on guitar people get all defensive and full of shit. Maybe it's because they know they can't do it themselves or maybe it's because it makes them realise their heroes aren't the be and end all of guitar playing. Either way, people need to realise there's more to music than than the fucking Blues scale.


I couldn't have said it better myself :)

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« Reply #48 on: July 07, 2006, 08:11:30 PM »
Just to clear something down, what dude plays is pure shred, and hands down, he is amazing at that. Amazing technique, but not enough soul in it, bludup-bludup-bludebiprrapwhuaay arpeggios all the way does not express emotions.

Shred with soul:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1J61TlPxKE[/youtube]

Shred, but nothing more:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7m3aIuGlUg[/youtube]

And Slipdisc, don't be a smartass, you are a dickwad to everybody. You ain't that intelligent what you try to be, you are a show-off, and you become ridiculous. But more about that in my next post. I will have arguments.


And now you will tell me to fuck off because Steve Vai is not neoclassical...

Well, here you go:

This has emotion too.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzGkXyBJtVY[/youtube]

You should make your tag line something to the effect of "Kov's realism, shattering idealism everywhere."

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« Reply #49 on: July 07, 2006, 08:50:06 PM »
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Get off your high horse!


So should you.

And you know, the guy corrected you, because you thought he wrote false notes, and answered like an asshole. If you would have wrote "I don't think there are false notes there, it sounds perfectly clean to me" instead of
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You don’t seem able to give your nonsense any backbone. Noise, false notes (?), really what is your problem? There are no false notes, what a bunch of BS!

then maybe he wouldn't have called you a fool.

And quoting Socrates is no measure of intelligence. What you are doing is though, and i think you are trying to seem to be intelligent, and witty, but you know what? You aren't. You resemble a bad politician turning words inside and out, using dictionary descriptions of the word "melody" as an argument, etc etc etc.

FUCK MAN everyone knows what a melody is, and whoa, guess what, that thing doesn't sound like one.

And now, you can ask, why we are so offensive, well, you think so highly of yourself, you cannot be mistaken, and self-absorbent dicks usually get abused a lot during conversations of intelligent people.

we have this saying in hungary, it's kind of like a word game, so it doesn't work in english, but you will see the point I'm making, at least i hope so. It goes like this:

There is a difference between a smart guy acting like a dumbass and a dumb guy acting like a smartass.

(In hungarian, so someone might give a better translation: Nem mindegy, hogy az okos hülyéskedik, vagy a hülye okoskodik.)

You should make your tag line something to the effect of "Kov's realism, shattering idealism everywhere."

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« Reply #50 on: July 07, 2006, 09:45:52 PM »
I kinda agree with ya Kov.

There's definately shread without soul,
but Yngwie does not fall into that category.

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« Reply #51 on: July 08, 2006, 04:50:14 PM »
Well at this point in the thread it’s time to start thanking some people…  :lol:

Quote from: "Nickotine"

Hah, my first response was an opinion.  My opinion was "he ain't got shit on Yngwie".


No it wasn’t, and the fact you immediately responded with another thread that did contain argumentation (well, at least it vaguely looked like it) shows you agreed with me. Thank you for indirectly proving my points. Now was that so hard?

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Yeah, files did expired but I still checked him out.  He won't go very far.  LOTS of people have talent, does it mean they all make it?  Nope.  I'm not really trying to support shit, there's nothing that I can show you that'll get your head out of this Matt Mill's ass.


Well, thank you for showing me that you indeed have nothing to add to this discussion besides some speculation and dissing. You can’t possibly have anything constructive to say to where this man is heading at, nobody knows. Looking at the past however things look very promising for the future, it’s undeniable. You don’t agree with that obviously, but when asked for some argumentation to further clear it up, you fail time and time again. Resorting in some sneers and other displays of hopelessness. So far much more speaks for the guy then you and your crystal-sphere based logic are willing to give credit for. The only thing you do is cram out one generic reply after the other and when people call you on it, you suddenly get all crybaby on them.

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And I'm the attention whore?  Look at yourself buddy, you're the biggest asshole I've seen on here, your replies are ridiculous.


Says the man who systematically fails to come up with something that only resembles a cohesive response. I simply love it when people show me how much smoke I effectively blow up their asses. At least you’re not bitter or anything….

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Relax and stop attacking people.  Not everyone is gonna agree with what you say or like.  I personally think neo-classical is crap, with a fan base full of ignorant pricks like yourself.


I don't care about people having a different opinion. I just act against people who think that simply yelling some random shit, is an opinion as well. This is no shoutbox, it's a forum, people are expected to give what they say backbone.

And thank you again for finally showing us were you’re coming from in this discussion. For proving my points in this thread that some of the greatest and loudest haters are merely reasoning from their own preferences in music, trying to sell them as facts. You dug your own grave by expressing that explicitly your ignorance towards a whole genre of music and it’s people, in this specific discussion. Your no better then other clueless haters who are using their lack of interest in the genre, to justify for some clueless bashing of people with obvious abilities. Really what were you thinking before you decided that would be a nice one to put out in public? It’s like hearing somebody go on and on about the uselessness of the cooling ability of an air-conditioningsystem only to find out he lives on the north pole.

 
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Just to clear something down, what dude plays is pure shred, and hands down, he is amazing at that. Amazing technique, but not enough soul in it, bludup-bludup-bludebiprrapwhuaay arpeggios all the way does not express emotions.


You don’t even have the ability to clear things “down” because you’re obviously so confused about what took place before you in this thread that you don’t know whether to scratch your watch or to wind your ass. More about that when I come to your next post.

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And Slipdisc, don't be a smartass, you are a dickwad to everybody. You ain't that intelligent what you try to be, you are a show-off, and you become ridiculous. But more about that in my next post. I will have arguments.


Well who’s being the smartass here? Looks to me like you are using a few clips to dictate to all of us what emotion in music is. It’s laughable to see you go through this thread pulling the things you need for your scribbles, out of context the way you like it and the way it suits your assbackwards posting style. Using a couple of video clips to lecture us all on how your personal preferences in music are synonymous for the definition of emotion in music. I almost fell out of my chair laughing when you introduced that last video with the sentence: “ This has emotion too: “

Because as far as emotion in music goes, a guy who’s so quickly to talk down on other people’s intelligence, you have shown to have little to nothing to justify that elitist attitude of yours. Let me tell you why: Music is an art form and therefore all about interpretation. Different people get different things out of it. Emotion is a SUBJECTIVE INTERNAL EXPERIENCE being just as subjected to interpretation as music. Everybody knows this, or at least should know when they decide to question people’s intelligence or accusing them of show off behavior. Yet here you come with a couple of clips pointing out what obviously has emotion and what not. Why do you decide to enter into into a discussion when it’s clear you’re coming in unarmed? Is this some form of SM? You are your own worst enemy by this point.

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And quoting Socrates is no measure of intelligence. What you are doing is though, and i think you are trying to seem to be intelligent, and witty, but you know what? You aren't. You resemble a bad politician turning words inside and out, using dictionary descriptions of the word "melody" as an argument, etc etc etc.


The only one resembling a bad politician here are you. May I kindly point out to you that others in this thread initially brought up a false definition of “melody” to proof their irrational points towards me. The only thing I did, was provide them with a solid definition of it AS A RESPONSE. You got to learn how to separate ACTION from REACTION. How come you don’t say anything to those opposing my views when they introduced a so called definition of melody to prove their points? Why do you decide to act against the guy who merely responds to them, giving the real definition? No that’s right, your incredible hypocritical powers just allow you to look past all that and enable you to believe in your own fantasies on how I needed that definition to make a point. Another prime example of this assbackwards behavior coming from you is this:


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And you know, the guy corrected you, because you thought he wrote false notes, and answered like an asshole. If you would have wrote "I don't think there are false notes there, it sounds perfectly clean to me" instead of


I know why he called me a fool. I know I was wrong there and I admitted to it immediately. However whether I was wrong or not doesn’t matter, the fact that he felt a need to immediately start name-calling, for whatever reason, was something I called him on and had every right to. The fact that you, a person to whom name-calling and questioning other people’s intelligence obviously is as normal as breathing, can’t understand this is very typical and therefore unsurprising. I wasn’t expecting a hypocrite like you, who feels a need to call people dickwads and then turns to point out how hateful their responses are, to understand this.

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FUCK MAN everyone knows what a melody is, and whoa, guess what, that thing doesn't sound like one.


FUCK MAN, everybody knows that I wasn’t talking about the video clips, of which I pointed out earlier I didn’t think they were meant to be qualified as songs or melodies or whatever. And whoa, gues what: I was talking about one of his songs “Arpeggio Travel”. Which everybody with only half a brain would clearly qualify as a song and having melody. Even Malmsteen commented on how he liked that SONG. Even Kilamite himself was man enough to point out that he mainly reasoned from the video and not from the song. You coming in here and start attacking me like I was claiming that those clips contained excellent melodies, or even songs, is just laughable. It shows how little you actually understood from the discussion that took place before you and it even more shows what kind of person you are for talking shit about people’s intelligence (and calling them names) with such a little base to justify it.

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And now, you can ask, why we are so offensive, well, you think so highly of yourself, you cannot be mistaken, and self-absorbent dicks usually get abused a lot during conversations of intelligent people.


I really don’t care about you being offended by anything. Don’t be so arrogant to even assume that I would waste one minute wondering about the reasons for you getting all crybaby on me. Wondering what it was I supposedly did wrong. Let me tell you however that I greatly enjoy the fact that you get all winded up over me. You must be foaming at the mouth right now. Next time read through a thread before you start attacking people on points they never made and make sure you at least understand 10% of the discussion that took place before you came riding in on that high horse of yours. You are one of the most assbackwards individuals on this forum Kov.

First you get all morally superior on people, only to turn around and become one of the most disrespectful individuals I’ve ever seen. Questioning people’s intelligence in every other sentence and sneering at them in the others. But hey, I guess that’s what most hypocrites do when they don’t carry the goods to further themselves in a discussion they obviously don’t carry the goods for. I won’t lower myself to your standards by talking BS about your intelligence, I don’t need that kind of childish antics and sneers to prove my point. The only thing it expresses on your part is that you feel painfully confronted with your inability to come up with something cohesive as a response (which is proven by your very irrelevant posts), nothing but ordinary jealousy. So you start making it all a ‘little’ personal, trying to tear people down to your level. Well,  I’ll leave that to those who need it, obviously you do.

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we have this saying in hungary, it's kind of like a word game, so it doesn't work in english, but you will see the point I'm making, at least i hope so. It goes like this:

There is a difference between a smart guy acting like a dumbass and a dumb guy acting like a smartass.
 


Wow what’s this? Is the guy who looked down on me for quoting Socrates to confront hypocrites like him, now quoting stuff himself? Well if that’s so, then let me leave you with a Dutch saying as well (as a direct response to your saying):

“The best way to succeed in life is to act on the advice we give to others.”

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« Reply #52 on: July 08, 2006, 06:01:14 PM »
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Shred with soul:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1J61TlPxKE[/youtube]



Steve Vai went down the pan since David Lee Roth went off the music scene, he was excellent in DLR But not he is nothing more than a masturbater of the guitar. He might aswell get his cock out and cum all over you if you enjoy that music. My opinion obviously


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« Reply #53 on: July 08, 2006, 08:32:19 PM »
You know what Slipdisc? I don't even give a fuck... I won't contiue this pointless conversation, I'll let you be happy, dude is the next Malmsteen.

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You should make your tag line something to the effect of "Kov's realism, shattering idealism everywhere."

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« Reply #54 on: July 09, 2006, 02:34:55 PM »
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Steve Vai went down the pan since David Lee Roth went off the music scene, he was excellent in DLR But not he is nothing more than a masturbater of the guitar. He might aswell get his cock out and cum all over you if you enjoy that music. My opinion obviously

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Steve Vai is still better than you, than Izzy, than Robin, than Fortus .. even better than Slash.